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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Yeah, yours is down low on the left side.

Newer ones that are on top are the ones that get into all sorts of variations.

This is one worry that does NOT concern you.

Continue on!

And yes! Two days in the 60's in January! Who woulda thunk? Today was amazing, warm and absolutely cloud free!

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Thanks Dave. Not to be overly obsessive (I know, too late), I am still concerned about two things— the rod is about 103mm and not rounded. One wonders 1) if the extra length had anything to do with the leak and 2) if the sharp edge will cut into the shaft. Perfectly happy to get a rounded 100mm rod if necessary.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Puzzling Pushrod Pauses Progress
Small town, Connecticut

In his quest to get a communal so-called “Karmann Ghia” up and running by spring, Trylon (an improbable psuedonym presumably referring to a long vanished monument of some sort) has been stymied in his efforts by a puzzling measurement.

It seems that the “push rod” in the Rube Goldbergian design that comprises the the fuel pump of said “Karmann Ghia” comically protrudes an unheard of amount (refer to photograph credited to Trylon).

No further details are known at this time but it remains to be seen whether or not Trylon will Triumph in his lofty goal.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Trylon wrote:

... Trylon (an improbable psuedonym presumably referring to a long vanished monument of some sort) ...

This one, ...
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... or one of these cimemas, ...
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... or this hotel, ...
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... or this very cool LED watch for time travellers, ...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

This thread has a little 36 horse fuel pump rod info for you.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=437103
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

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... or should I just ...
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Wow, this is completely unknown to me!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
This thread has a little 36 horse fuel pump rod info for you.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=437103


Thanks for this!

So according to this it seems that the push rod may be within specs after all (need to measure min/max):
EverettB wrote:
I don't know about the pressure issue but the stroke is supposed to be between 29mm and 34mm according to my '55 shop manual.
This includes both gaskets which should be "in perfect condition"

29 and 34mm markings on factory tool
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So what is the meaning of this in the ‘58-‘60 VW Workshop Manual in regard to the “Gauge VW 328c”?

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The marks correspond to a length of 8 mm (.31”) and 13 mm (.51) measured from the fuel pump contact flange (incl. gaskets) to the projecting push rod end.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Way back when, in the days before time took its toll upon my body, in the late 60's..........
I got my first VW, a 1960 sunroof Beetle.
I needed a repair manual, Bentleys weren't readily available. I think I got this from JC Whitney?
My very first VW book!

Maybe it will help you.......

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Used pushrod

https://airheadparts.com/vw-part/fuel-pump-pushrod-used-111-127-307/
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

What a treasure Dave!

Thanks for taking the time to share!

Makes this curiouser and curiouser...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Used pushrod

https://airheadparts.com/vw-part/fuel-pump-pushrod-used-111-127-307/


Thanks for this as well. Have seen a few but I always wonder what has been done to my vehicle that might negate the obvious choices.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

I think thats the tool to set preload on the pump diaphragm.
The rod needs to travel enough to make the pump operate and send fuel, too much travel will damage the pump, too little and it wont pump enough. Like Goldilocks, you want it just right. 108mm is og 36 horse rod length.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Trylon wrote:
What a treasure Dave!

Thanks for taking the time to share!

Makes this curiouser and curiouser...

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The manual you have indicates it's for 1958-1960 models, which would cover 36hp and 40hp engines. I'm not aware of the 40 horse fuel pump differences from a 36hp, but just wanted to point out that the photos in the pages you're referencing appear to show a 40 horse engine, and I would guess the measurements referenced are for said engine as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

A new lesson in VW for you!

And this one may get me crucified by the faithful........ but........

Robert Bentley makes mistakes!

Here is my 52-57 Type I ..... notice the dimensions are proper?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Yeah...... I never got the 58-60 Bentley, the hole in my collection! Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

And this little quite from long ago........ (2011)

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

Volumex wrote:
Locations of weep holes in spacer block:

From 53 Manual:
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From 58 Manual:
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x2 for replacing the guide block.

Looks like WW don't have any in stock, but CIP are showing them: http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-111-127-303 (Disclaimer: I have never bought one from there, so I don't know if they are any good.)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Just as an FYI here is a 40hp and newer fuel pump drive system, thay rod protrusion is about a half inch as your page shows........

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Puzzling Pushrod Protrusion Pacified!

djkeev wrote:
Just as an FYI here is a 40hp and newer fuel pump drive system, thay rod protrusion is about a half inch as your page shows........

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

Not puzzling, you were just looking at the wrong page! Laughing

Flip back one page........

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

FYI...... the 40 hp was introduced in June of 1960, it was in production for two months during the model year run which is why it is in the 58-60 bentley.

As a generalization, we think of it being introduced with the 61 model.


My 60 was a 36

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Not puzzling, you were just looking at the wrong page! Laughing

Flip back one page........

Dave


That would have been great, unfortunately it seems the only fuel pump that I can find information on is the one for the 40hp. Perhaps my edition is abridged? Hard to believe that that tome could have been thicker.
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