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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17116 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:11 am Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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Assemble the engine with the best parts you have on hand and get the experience for when you have time and money to build something more reliable. Engine building is not something you can just read about. There is a feel, that you need to acquire. Your assembled engine should get you down the road for a while. Short cuts don't translate into extended success. _________________ ☮️ |
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:31 am Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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dabaron wrote: |
aplusbisme wrote: |
I have not split the case on engine 1. Thanks for the advice everyone. Much appreciated |
post the photos of the hand planked rods, we are all on seat's edge waiting. |
Indeed, with 'bated breath! _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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I would pull the jugs and rods while you're in there. Check the rod bearings and bolts, and then run a hone through the cyls. Those heads look fine, but I'd probably pop the valves out and hand lap them for good measure. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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aplusbisme Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2019 Posts: 47 Location: Floyd, VA
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:35 am Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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Can’t find anything on samba about removing the valves and lapping. I’m at work so I haven’t looked in the Bentley yet. Hopefully there’s some info in there??? Saw some YouTube videos on lapping valves, reckon it’s all the same and specific to a Vanagon? Thanks for the recommendations. Still cleaning, cleaning, cleaning |
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aplusbisme Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2019 Posts: 47 Location: Floyd, VA
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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Is this clean enough? If not how to clean up better around valves? No pitting where o ring meets jug. If I don’t pull the jugs should I clean them at all? Specifically the outermost 1/4” where there is some carbon build up. Thanks
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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Hand lapping valves is a universal task, so just look for a generic YT vid. I guess I think of it as similar to honing the cylinders to take the glaze off. Pulling the valves also lets you examine the condition of the guides. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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aplusbisme Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2019 Posts: 47 Location: Floyd, VA
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:57 am Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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Cool. I’ll see if I can borrow valve spring compressor and start today. Thanks |
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aplusbisme Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2019 Posts: 47 Location: Floyd, VA
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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Got some valves out. How do I check the valve guides or do I need the tool in the Bentley? Brought it to my motorcycle engine buddy and he thought it was good. What to check?
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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You put the valve into the guide most of the way and then rock it side to side. This should let you know if the guides are excessively worn. If you have a micrometer, you can also check the wear on the valve stems. Those two valve seats look pretty good to me, though the margins on the intake don't appear to be uniform around the seat. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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mikemtnbike Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2015 Posts: 2795 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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OP, these are, like, just my opinions, man.
If I was in your shoes, I’d put that engine back together with a new gasket kit, and run it. So long as your compression and oil pressure #’s aren’t awful, drive it and save your money up.
By my math, the time vs money vs performance gains are off on doing a stock rebuild myself. Your math, of course, may be different. _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL 2.1 AT Westfauxlia. "Frankie" Totaled https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=764510&highlight=carnage
1995 Eurovan Camper "Marzivan"
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aplusbisme Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2019 Posts: 47 Location: Floyd, VA
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1 take 2 |
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That’s where I’m leaning but I figure no harm in cleaning it up while I’m in there. Thanks for the input! |
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