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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:01 am    Post subject: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

I found this kit on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Underdash-Air-C...3913!US!-1

I called them up and they appear to have all of the parts. Where can I get the bracket to hold the evaporator, and mounting for the compressor.

Anyone is the SW Florida area that would install this. Have a 70 Ghia with twin Carbs.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

Good luck finding a place to put that condenser.


That kit is far from complete, it doesn't have all of the parts to make it fit your car. You can probably add another $1,500- $2,500 for a shop to route & fab everything to make it work. I can guarantee you that there isn't enough hose to make the loop necessary to run that thing & I sure as hell wouldn't expect hose clamps to withstand the head pressures on the high side.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

These are the people you want to contact for air cooled air conditioning.

https://gilmore-enterprises.net/
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

I agree!
Say NO! To that kit!!

Gilmore as linked and there’s another VW kit company .... I believe in Florida.
I’ll see if I can find the name

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

I don't think you would be happy with that ebay kit. Its not really designed for a Ghia.

I installed the Gilmore kit in my last Ghia. I found the kit to be well made and the instructions were good. I had never installed an AC system and had no problem doing this. The system worked well.

The only things I needed to do after the install was to have it charged by my local garage.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

Or San Diego..... Rolling Eyes Embarassed

http://iceautoair.com/index.html

Am I losing it or did one of these companies used to be in Florida?

Ah Ha!
Gilmore Enterprises
10870 49th St N, Clearwater, FL 33762
(727) 573-2944

https://www.yellowpages.com/clearwater-fl/mip/gilmore-enterprises-456546594?lid=456546594

Yet you click on the website link on this page and it takes you to the Las Vegas page. I guess they loaded up and got out of Dodge!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

I saw that. They were in FL when I dealt with them.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

They moved from Florida to Vegas. I had looked for them when I bought my AC for my bug, then found out they were in Vegas. Great system, works nice
fantastic to deal with.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

Yeah. No bracket or pulley or belt.
Still some work to be done.

There are things I like about the Gilmore kit but I like the ICE kit best.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

What I like about Gilmore is their willingness to sell you just a part.

I'm making my own in dash A/C but I needed the compressor to engine bracket. "No Problem" says Gilmore, it wasn't cheap but I have it!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

Sadly, I still have an "original" Compressor stand from the AC that was on mine when I bought it. No Bueno for the newer compressors.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

jeffrey8164 wrote:
Sadly, I still have an "original" Compressor stand from the AC that was on mine when I bought it. No Bueno for the newer compressors.


You can buy an adapter to make the rotary's fit on the piston stand.

I'll see if I can find a link....... Nostalgic Air maybe?

Nope!
Vintage Air......

https://www.vintageair.com/search-results/?sqry=Adapter


WAIT!
Nostalgic too!!!

https://nostalgicac.com/mount-kits-pulleys/misc-co...mount.html

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

BTW ..... r12a is my "go to gas".

Environmentally friendly and works way better than the 134a the government shoved down our throats back in the 1980's!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

carndog64 wrote:


Anyone is the SW Florida area that would install this. Have a 70 Ghia with twin Carbs.

Thanks


Buy the Gilmore kit, ship it to my house, drive the car North, I'll put it in..... 2-3 days, go visit NYC while I do....... play tourist.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

I was looking at that eBay A/C kit again.

Sanden "style" Compressor. ...... not a Sanden

Large one piece Condensor, no way to make it work up under by the axles where it needs to go. Two smaller ones with two electric fans are needed.

No mounting brackets!
How the HECK are you going to fasten that compressor to the engine!?!?!?!
Sure you can make the other mounting needs from flat stock.
What about a pulley for the belt?

What quality is the hose?
Big steps have been made in hose design in recent years.

And the fittings, simple cheese grater design? No good!

This kit has so many failings it is frightening! But it is offered at a very good price!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

Gilmore supply UAC compressors right now. And they have changed hands, Ed is still involved but not the main guy now. They do still have great customer service and you will get everything you need.

Personally I want an evaporator made for the car and that means used or via http://iceautoair.com/index.html.

Interesting that the eBay pic shows the late Mexican Beetle with Fuel Injection. I believe they had their own compressor mounting bracket. Maybe Antonio will be able to supply some components for you:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1304502
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

tommu wrote:
Gilmore supply UAC compressors right now. And they have changed hands, Ed is still involved but not the main guy now. They do still have great customer service and you will get everything you need.

Personally I want an evaporator made for the car and that means used or via http://iceautoair.com/index.html.

Interesting that the eBay pic shows the late Mexican Beetle with Fuel Injection. I believe they had their own compressor mounting bracket. Maybe Antonio will be able to supply some components for you:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1304502


Does anyone know if the Gilmore under dash unit can be converted to RHD?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

tommu wrote:
.....Interesting that the eBay pic shows the late Mexican Beetle with Fuel Injection. ......

I had a look at the advertisement linked on the Samba. It also show a Mexican EFI set up and with the AC compressor added. I'm amazed at the tight fit of all that machiner in the engine compartment. It would be a challenge setting the timing with all those spinning pulleys and moving belts. Certainly no loose clothing near any of that.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

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tommu wrote:
.....Interesting that the eBay pic shows the late Mexican Beetle with Fuel Injection. ......

I had a look at the advertisement linked on the Samba. It also show a Mexican EFI set up and with the AC compressor added. I'm amazed at the tight fit of all that machiner in the engine compartment. It would be a challenge setting the timing with all those spinning pulleys and moving belts. Certainly no loose clothing near any of that.

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Agree - but the timing on the Digifant EFI is controlled entirely by the ECU. You need to use a VAG-COM connector and associated software! Good thing with FI is that you'll need to spend less time tuning things!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia AC installer for SW Florida needed- found this kit can I do Reply with quote

Darn shame about that condenser in the rear luggage area...

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