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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

NAZglen wrote:
Hey DD
i have been looking for these also. Here are two links on Chirco's website. Upper and lowers.

https://www.chircoestore.com/product/baja-bug-upper-front-axle-tube-beam-supports/

https://www.chircoestore.com/product/vw-baja-bug-lower-front-tube-beam-supports/


Thanks for the link! I will have to do some reading about those. I wonder if anything has to be cut away and they are meant to be used with a fiberglass front end? I will definitely do more research on these for sure though. Thanks for the help!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

from the pictures on their website. it looks like the bottom bolts to the pan. the top looks like it bolts to the front firewall.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Wouldnít that make the gas tank area really tight?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Unfortunately I was taking off the seized concentrics off the old ball joints on my thing control arms and they come off with a bang, so much of a bang it popped out or something did and I shattered my trigger finger on my right hand and bust it open. Then, I tried to clean it up and go to Wahlgreens to get a splint for my finger so I could keep working and my other car I left the lights on over night. So when it rains it pours haha. Rolling Eyes

Got cleaned up and managed to finish getting the front suspension apart today. I will have to rent a slide hammer from Autozone with the bearing puller so I can get the needle bearings out and then I can clean up my front beam and paint it and start reassembling the front and roll it out of the way I guess.

Worse part is I really wanted to go shooting this weekend too! LOL #2gunfire
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

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Unfortunately I was taking off the seized concentrics off the old ball joints on my thing control arms and they come off with a bang, so much of a bang it popped out or something did and I shattered my trigger finger on my right hand and bust it open. Then, I tried to clean it up and go to Wahlgreens to get a splint for my finger so I could keep working and my other car I left the lights on over night. So when it rains it pours haha. Rolling Eyes

Got cleaned up and managed to finish getting the front suspension apart today. I will have to rent a slide hammer from Autozone with the bearing puller so I can get the needle bearings out and then I can clean up my front beam and paint it and start reassembling the front and roll it out of the way I guess.

Worse part is I really wanted to go shooting this weekend too! LOL #2gunfire


Sucks about your finger! If your needle bearings are in good shape I would reuse them!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

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Unfortunately I was taking off the seized concentrics off the old ball joints on my thing control arms and they come off with a bang, so much of a bang it popped out or something did and I shattered my trigger finger on my right hand and bust it open. Then, I tried to clean it up and go to Wahlgreens to get a splint for my finger so I could keep working and my other car I left the lights on over night. So when it rains it pours haha. Rolling Eyes

Got cleaned up and managed to finish getting the front suspension apart today. I will have to rent a slide hammer from Autozone with the bearing puller so I can get the needle bearings out and then I can clean up my front beam and paint it and start reassembling the front and roll it out of the way I guess.

Worse part is I really wanted to go shooting this weekend too! LOL #2gunfire


Sucks about your finger! If your needle bearings are in good shape I would reuse them!


I guess ball joint separators are nothing to mess with. Of course I have my Ingersoll Rand impact that I was using on it also so when it went, it went.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Jeremy from Rebel Wire finished up my harness today and sent me some pics. I am relocating the fuse panel to under the rear seat on the passenger side, hence the extra lengths of wire runs. I am excited to have modern style fuses because you can get them anywhere and they are a lot easier to test without having to pull and guess. I also had him do a few custom features such as lengths for gauges, led flasher relays and wiring in the 4 way flashers so they are plug and play. The harness does not follow the VW OEM wiring colors but itís not a big deal since wire is labeled every 6 inches and my car is getting completely rewired. Will be nice to have a fresh harness that isnít a hack job over 50+ years and the wires will be fresh instead of crispy. Overall, I think they did a great job!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Got some done today since my finger is healed up. Got most of the front suspension painted with the Steel-It, and started stripping the old paint off the rear trailing arms and frame horns. I need to get a new wire brush so I will finish that stuff tomorrow. Also cleaned up the thing eccentrics so I can use them again. Got my ball joints pressed in. Went with the Heyd heavy duty German ball joints this time, as I wasn't impressed with the Meyles.

Received my wiring harness from Rebel Wire as well. It is very heavy duty, I bet the box weighs close to 25 pounds. I think the wires are about twice as thick as the stock harness. Overall I think they did a very good job on it and it came with a nice book on wiring the gauges up and customized instructions since I got a underseat relocation kit, instead of standard. Will probably be a couple months until I get to work on the wiring however.

I am getting close to being able to seam seal the chassis and then I will raptor liner it and flip it over and do the bottom. After that I will be rebuilding the entire chassis from the ground up with all new bearings, seals and bushings. Everything is going to be new and fresh. I am excited again to be working on the car!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

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NAZglen wrote:
Hey DD
i have been looking for these also. Here are two links on Chirco's website. Upper and lowers.

https://www.chircoestore.com/product/baja-bug-upper-front-axle-tube-beam-supports/

https://www.chircoestore.com/product/vw-baja-bug-lower-front-tube-beam-supports/


Those links are for beam to front firewall brace tubes. NOT for reinforcing teh IRS arms while retaining stock shock mounts.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Got the most of the drivers side stripped today. The dealer undercoating really is a pain. You can chip it off with a screwdriver or grind it off with the grinder like I did. Kind of a have to do multiple passes as it burns off then the tar type layer, paint and then primer finally. Takes a while.

I have 34 days until my daughter is born so I need to either get the body epoxy primer and raptor liner painted or finish the chassis. I think I am going to finish the body first since it is more messy and louder so I can get that out of the way. Also I am going to probably have my transmission rebuilt so I would like that in the car along with my new cv axles so I can measure for my shocks so it will be a bit before the chassis could be completed anyways.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

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Those links are for beam to front firewall brace tubes. NOT for reinforcing teh IRS arms while retaining stock shock mounts.


Thatís why I asked if it makes the gas tank area really tight? Iíve never seen them mounted on a stock front end just fiberglass.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Got more of the body stripped today. Have one more wheel well and some small touch up areas the wire brush couldnít get to on the outside and then I will finish the inside. The roof inside is what I dread. I hate working with my arms over my head for long periods.

Anyways, have to get some Upol Epoxy primer ordered up soon and decide on a raptor liner color.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

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dustymojave wrote:
Those links are for beam to front firewall brace tubes. NOT for reinforcing the IRS arms while retaining stock shock mounts.


Thatís why I asked if it makes the gas tank area really tight? Iíve never seen them mounted on a stock front end just fiberglass.


I went back and edited that last post of mine as when I posted it the quote of NAZGlen's post didn't go with my post. Now it will make more sense as it was originally intended.

Moving on...
Does it make "the gas tank area really tight?"...hmmm...I have to assume you mean does it make it tight for clearance under the tank... they should fit fine if you're fitting them with the tank in place before you drill the bolt holes. My Bug has front cage structure under the stock tank.

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The sides are trimmed, but they cleared the tubes before they were trimmed.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Got the last wheel well stripped today and started on the cab. Got quite a bit of it done, will probably be able to finish it tomorrow I hope. Not enjoying stripping the cabin roof but it has to get done!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Man you are doing a thorough job.
Keep it up
Is that raptor paint you are putting on smooth and shiny or rough like bed liner? I would not grind ceiling just paint or are you not going to have an interior?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

dirtkeeper wrote:
Man you are doing a thorough job.
Keep it up
Is that raptor paint you are putting on smooth and shiny or rough like bed liner? I would not grind ceiling just paint or are you not going to have an interior?


You can put it on in different ways depending on the psi you use at the gun. Also. They sell a special applicator that has a variable tip to further adjust how you want the texture to be. Also it can be rolled on for a smoother appearance.

I am sanding the roof because I am epoxy priming the whole car for protection. I am raptor lining the inside as well and I will not have a traditional headliner. I cut the clips out so I will be putting up an Indian or Mexican blanket in the uppermost area as a headline after I put sound deadener. I guess my interior will be a little more spartan but it will still have door panels, carpeting and my modified headliner. All the vinyl will most likely just be basic black.

Thanks for the words of encouragement Iím getting kind of burnt out right now to be honest but have to persevere.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Got more done on the dash and package tray area and heater channels. Got next to final sanding done on them. I will still have to wash everything with wax and grease remover and do final scratch for the epoxy primer and then Iím off to the races and Raptor Lining. I still have a few more welds to grind where I filled the openings on the dash and glovebox areas but I need to get a 90 degree grinder and roloc discs for fine touch up sanding to finish that project.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Taking care of one of my areas I wasnít looking forward to today. Got the engine bay mostly done. Need a couple more supplies to get it finished up but made significant progress. I am thinking of painting the engine bay with black raptor liner so it will hide grease and dirt a little better. I will probably do the area with the seal in black steel-it so itís not such a pain to deal with the gasket for the tins.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

Used my sandblasted gun with glass bead to get some of the tough to reach areas in the engine bay and also did more sanding today inside the cab. Also welded the front of a Pre-Ď67 glove box door to the front of my Ď70 glovebox door to take up the gap from not having a dash pad. Used a air grinder to get the correct glovebox door latch hole lined up (will be using the twist one of my Ď70 since it fits properly). Ran some welds around the edges and smoothed it out. Then filled the lip so it looks like one piece. Will sand the back, save the tire sticker, and paint the back in Steel-It and the front will be Raptor Liner when I paint the interior.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Double-Doubleís '70 Class 11 Style Trail Runner Build Reply with quote

If you use Raptor Liner, I think it has a bit of texture, which will end up holding grease and dirt. I would suggest something like regular paint that would allow stuff to just slide right off.
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