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risk Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Stumpbroke, Arkansas
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:21 am Post subject: Swap Meet Weber 44IDFs |
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Picked up a set of weber Italy 44idf carbs at a swap meet, they came with standard DP manifolds.. The outside was pretty dirty so I assume they came off a buggy or baja. Inside was pretty clean though.
My last big project was EFI so I am a little rusty when it comes to carbs.
I would like to refresh then put them on a stock 1600 DP w/ 1-1/2 header ? and start from there. I am about 300' above sea level.
They currently have:
135 main
175 air
50 idle
36 vents
F7 emuls
What do I have and what do I need? |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15280 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Swap Meet Weber 44IDFs |
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44 IDF's are way too big for a stock 1600. It will never run right.
If you want to throw money at it and try them start with some 28mm venturies and F11 emulsion tubes.
1 1/2" exhaust is also too big for a stock 1600. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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risk Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Stumpbroke, Arkansas
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Swap Meet Weber 44IDFs |
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Okay better question then..
What engine would these have been on with that jetting setup? |
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mcdragracer Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2007 Posts: 714 Location: Cally
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Swap Meet Weber 44IDFs |
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Maybe a 2L.
And ditto with what racer Dave, said, probably better off getting some 40 idf or better yet 36 dellorto's. |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15280 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Swap Meet Weber 44IDFs |
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Engine size does not matter. Dual Weber 44 IDF's can support from around 125 HP up to 180 HP. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
2010 Sportsman ET Champion - Mid-America Dragway - Arkansas City, KS
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ach60 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2001 Posts: 4139 Location: Santa Maria
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Swap Meet Weber 44IDFs |
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So may be a 1600 with an FK-10 _________________ Good Luck
Al |
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risk Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Stumpbroke, Arkansas
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Swap Meet Weber 44IDFs |
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The 1600 was just a thought since I already have it as a spare motor..
If I need to build something bigger to play with these carbs I will. I have a set of heads cut for 92s on the shelf, stock size valves I think. A few other odds and ends but will need to acquire a bottom end and case.
So something around a 2110 would be a good fit? |
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sled Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 6171
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Swap Meet Weber 44IDFs |
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risk wrote: |
So something around a 2110 would be a good fit? |
yes 44's would work ok on a 2110. But if it were on the milder side, Id probably still use 40 IDFs. If you build the 2110 to turn some higher rpms, then the 44's would be advantageous.
not everyone agrees, but in my opinion carb selection is based on venturi (choke) selection. If an engine will run best for its application (street/offroad/drag strip) with a 32 venturi, then a 40 IDF is a much better choice than a 44. If the engine wants 36 venturis, then the 44 idf is much better. Mismatching venturi to carb bore size is not much fun for tuning and performance.
if you literally want to build an engine around your existing carbs, then you're looking at 36 venturis which would run great on a big street engine, or a higher revving small engine. _________________ drive your split. |
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ekacpuc Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2010 Posts: 1414 Location: ketchikan alaska
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Swap Meet Weber 44IDFs |
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sled wrote: |
risk wrote: |
So something around a 2110 would be a good fit? |
yes 44's would work ok on a 2110. But if it were on the milder side, Id probably still use 40 IDFs. If you build the 2110 to turn some higher rpms, then the 44's would be advantageous.
not everyone agrees, but in my opinion carb selection is based on venturi (choke) selection. If an engine will run best for its application (street/offroad/drag strip) with a 32 venturi, then a 40 IDF is a much better choice than a 44. If the engine wants 36 venturis, then the 44 idf is much better. Mismatching venturi to carb bore size is not much fun for tuning and performance.
if you literally want to build an engine around your existing carbs, then you're looking at 36 venturis which would run great on a big street engine, or a higher revving small engine. |
I agree. If a 2110 I would use a healthy cam like a fk8/web86b or something else that will rev past 6000 rpm. Or just go bigger on the motor. |
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