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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

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and i installed the license plate.


Whoa, slow down on hitting all the big repairs there! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

Greetings! Hunterdon County, NJ here. Another one of us lives in Lambertville, along with at least one other person (who I don't know).

We'll have to consider some sort of get-together in the future.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

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and i installed the license plate.


Whoa, slow down on hitting all the big repairs there! Laughing


anything i can install and get out of the dining room is progress.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

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Anything i can install and get out of the dining room is progress.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

with the end of the world and all happening, what better time to work on the Westy?


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ok, wow. that looks different.


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it's not paint and goes on different than paint. it will run REALLY easily if you are heavy handed (like me).


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came out super nice, and the clean look really makes the inside "airy" and not so dingy feeling. and the smell of death has been replaced with "clean" aerosol propellant smell Smile

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yeah, this looks awesome!


more to come, i need to go find some TP for my bunghole!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

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more to come, i need to go find some TP...

You don't keep it in the Westy at all times?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

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more to come, i need to go find some TP...

You don't keep it in the Westy at all times?


Nah! Here on the East coast poison ivy grows really big! That's what real men use when out in the wilds!
Maybe skunk cabbage leaves? They're HUGE!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

between the rainy days and the anxiety of working from home, i have made an incredible amount of progress...

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this was the starting point...

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nice to get some free spare relays!

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need to clean up the metal and hit with the rust converter and a top coat of paint. this dust is everywhere. lots of dirt road driving i suspect.

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the three looms are for fog lights, sensor on spark plug wire #1, and i think going to the starter. need to wait until the ground is not muddy to investigate further.

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the remote start had wires spliced in that i cut and need to heat shrink the tails. several wires were spliced into the headlight switch, not a headlight relay upgrade, i believe these were from the alarm to flash the lights.

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professional fog light install.

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much better looking. the fog light brackets will be removed at some point, no hurry.

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much better. the wire hanging down on the far right goes into the head liner for an alarm sensor. i need to drop the head liner to remove it, not something i was planning on doing...

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four alarm sirens removed, two from under the bus, two within the dash. lots of wires for the alarm that simply pulled right out. i'm going to repurpose the longer wire pairs to use as power to the rear for lighting and USB ports from the house battery i'm going to install under the driver's seat.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

it's amazing out, so Vanagon work time


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the rear hatch card is rather broken. i know, let's fix it with duct tape! the card is past it and i'll order a replacement at some future point.


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the three wires running from the front along the A/C lines to the rear have been traced. a pair go to the #1 spark plug wire for the remote starter. the other was i believe for the rear hatch, it was cut and laying loose in top of the 3/4 head.

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long wires are long.

major progress made on not having to use a screwdriver or remote trigger on the starter to crank the engine. i can now do it from the ignition switch like a normal person.

i could not get it to start, just crank. i think my JumpNCarry needs charged. i'll see what happens after a charge up.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

yesterday i worked on being able to start the Westy's engine using the ignition switch.

i was able to get the starter solenoid to engage and the engine to crank. it would not start. after far more time than is not embarrassing i realized the issue...

the ECU was in the garage with everything else i removed. Embarassed

with the ECU connected, the engine now starts easily from the ignition switch using the key, like a normal person starts their normal boring car.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

dabaron wrote:
i realized the issue...

You're in good company:

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Or so I thought:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

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You're in good company


well i do stay in the company of this lot. i never had to tell anyone, but i know y'all will keep it close.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

dabaron wrote:
yesterday i worked on being able to start the Westy's engine using the ignition switch.

i was able to get the starter solenoid to engage and the engine to crank. it would not start. after far more time than is not embarrassing i realized the issue...

the ECU was in the garage with everything else i removed. Embarassed

with the ECU connected, the engine now starts easily from the ignition switch using the key, like a normal person starts their normal boring car.


I love when people are brutally honest!
Good for you!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

super nice day that called for me to be outside. i obliged and got to work fitting the sub-floor.

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coping with all this right now.

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the B pillar and inset at the slider are fitted

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i'm going to delete the rear heater to gain some space under the bench seat. just a few more tweaks and i can run a bead of adhesive and get this thing installed.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

You might want to use some kind of sound proofing under there. I used the Dyna pad in my last van and it really helped with the sound. I also ran my plywood length wise with two pieces to get full coverage and I could also remove the main floor without having to remove the seat. Oh that's right , you have the kitchen to put in so maybe that wouldn't matter to you. Your vans coming along nice, good work!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:28 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

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the three wires running from the front along the A/C lines to the rear have been traced. a pair go to the #1 spark plug wire for the remote starter. the other was i believe for the rear hatch, it was cut and laying loose in top of the 3/4 head.

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I have the same rig, which I think is part of an aftermarket cruise control. Mine has never worked and I have not been interested in fixing it, but have kept the pieces intact. I did set this aside during my work on the tuneup with new plug wires earlier this year.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

enjoyed the lovely weather yesterday and got the major sub-floor piece fitted and just about ready to install.


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making sure the bench sits correctly and the holes all line up.


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testing the fitment of the new PVC flooring.


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i'll have it overlap the wall sides so i can get it tight against the edges. i think it's going to look great once it's in place.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

as promised many pages ago, i would detail the issues i had with the skylight kit i purchased from BusDepot (which is the GoWesty kit it seems).


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the left is the OE bracket, the right is the kit bracket. the center slot is not correct in the kit.


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these two photos show that the notch is not the correct size to accept the arm mechanism


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the bracket that attaches to the skylight is too large and this causes an issue with closing the skylight


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the bracket is hitting the gasket and will not allow the skylight to fully close.


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i used the OE brackets with the rest of the kit to get it installed.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

been keeping at the Westy between the cold rain and high winds we had.

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put a few coats of poly on the bottom and about 4-5 inches around the top edges to keep any water that gets under the plywood from being wicked up.

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the under cabinet flooring received several coats of poly on both sides.

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a final tweaking of the fit and the subfloor is ready.

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the new vinyl mat is cut and ready to be installed

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the OEM is on the left, the Amazon special on the right. a little darker would have been nice but i did not want black.

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the mat is in place. i used a double sided tape product meant for vinyl mat flooring. i ran tape along all edges and then at intervals across the middle. it "can" be removed in the future if the mat needs replaced.

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i decided to eliminate the rear heater and for the wiring bundle, i simply cut a slit in the vinyl to pass the wires thru. i can tuck them back under once the bench seat is installed. i trimmed the areas for the floor mounts trying to keep the holes as small as possible to keep things from finding their way under the floor

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i bought a bench grinder and installed a wire wheel. the metal trim piece was cleaned and now needs a few coats of paint. the plastic lip protector will be replaced.

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it's starting to look like a camper again!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue Reply with quote

some more work between the rain drops...


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the pop top latch needed some love. the coating delaminated and the pitting was pretty bad. cleaned on the wire wheel and then applied convertor. once it was looking decent, i sprayed it many coats of Rustoleum enamel. the installed picture looks darker than it really is.


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next up was a complete disassembly of the rear bench seat. i cleaned up the internal brackets and then sprayed the brackets and 7 carriage bolt tops with a few coats of the Rustoleum enamel. i tried to get the stains out of the fabric, but i think i'll have to get a purpose made product, my Simple Green was not able to get the heavier stains out.

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it's starting to come together... the A/C cabinet is the next nice day project.
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