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RalphMH Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 85 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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Another piece of my collection. Got it from a closed VW dealership.
Reparatur-Annahme = repair reception / repair registration
Probably not original VW, but vintage and matching with the VW signs in size and color |
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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Great piece. I love the custom dealer one-off signs. Here is a similar one I just purchased. The makers mark is visible as well.
Makers mark:
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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To bring this full circle, here is the above sign as it would have sat under a service sign (or similar sign with the flat bottom):
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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Back in 2012 there was a pretty big discussion in this thread about this sign in particular and whether or not is was real or a reproduction.
It was noted at the time that there are actually two versions of this sign, the one above and this one below which has a thinner space between the V and W as well as a makers mark. This version of the sign meets the ratio requirements VW required at the time:
It was also mentioned that there were no other examples of VW literature/signs that showed the text overlaying the VW logo like this sign. I just happened to come across this photo recently (Thanks Lind) which shows exactly this:
I still think we have what appears to be an original sign (the one with the correct gap between the V and W and a makers mark) and then a reproduction done much later. _________________ RPM=(MPH*336* (R&P*4th*1.26))/Tire Diameter in inches |
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RalphMH Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 85 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:29 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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This one ist just AWESOME ! Nice find !
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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RalphMH wrote: |
This one ist just AWESOME ! Nice find !
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Thanks. I've been looking for a dealer add-on sign for my DIENST sign for a few years and this one came up. The DIENST sign came out of Auto-haus Robert Koch a number of years back. _________________ RPM=(MPH*336* (R&P*4th*1.26))/Tire Diameter in inches |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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Porcelain/enamel sign from an old dealership here in Australia. There were neon tubes on the sign originally, but they are long gone.
Photo credit for the 2 old pics goes to Simon Barnfield.
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:46 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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What a score! Looks to be double sided, any idea where the other side is? _________________ RPM=(MPH*336* (R&P*4th*1.26))/Tire Diameter in inches |
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RalphMH Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 85 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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Great find IN2VWS !
I am still dreaming of those huge illuminated VOLKSWAGEN letters - matching the lollipop signs
@srfndoc:
You mentionend Autohaus Robert Koch. Maybe here in Schwäbisch Hall ?
I know this Autohaus very well, as this is my hometown |
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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RalphMH wrote: |
@srfndoc:
You mentionend Autohaus Robert Koch. Maybe here in Schwäbisch Hall ?
I know this Autohaus very well, as this is my hometown |
That's the one. My large DIENST sign and this one both came from Auto Haus Robert Koch:
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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srfndoc wrote: |
What a score! Looks to be double sided, any idea where the other side is? |
No idea where the other side is. Just happy to have 1 side. _________________ ( ⫏ ⫐ )
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RalphMH Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 85 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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@srfndoc: Wow - Obviously it was you outbidding me on this sign some years ago
If you ever think about selling it, just drop me a note! |
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:57 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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RalphMH wrote: |
@srfndoc: Wow - Obviously it was you outbidding me on this sign some years ago
If you ever think about selling it, just drop me a note! |
I only got one of the two that came from Robert Koch Autohaus. The other one went to a German friend.
These were posted a few days ago, some nice dealer add-on examples here:
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RalphMH Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 85 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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WOW - what a nice collection ! |
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RalphMH Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 85 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:05 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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I love the pennant chain as well.
Have two of them in my collection, one NOS still with the protective
papers between.
They were both made of truck tarpaulin, and intended for outdoor use,
e.g. at the exhibition area
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nynone4 Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 299 Location: Central Illinois
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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Found these at an antique store stuffed in the corner. Not sure if they are actually VW corporate or dealer branding... but the color and graphics seem similar.
These appear to be two-side painted rather than porcelain. Any idea if these could be dealer signs? How would I know? Metal is heavy gauge. Size is 24”x6”
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:14 pm Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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nynone4 wrote: |
Found these at an antique store stuffed in the corner. Not sure if they are actually VW corporate or dealer branding... but the color and graphics seem similar.
These appear to be two-side painted rather than porcelain. Any idea if these could be dealer signs? How would I know? Metal is heavy gauge. Size is 24”x6”
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All of the arrows VW used had a different shape for the arrow head than the ones you found:
More here:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/vwsigns.php
Still cool signs, just doubt they are VW. _________________ RPM=(MPH*336* (R&P*4th*1.26))/Tire Diameter in inches |
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srfndoc Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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Wanted to post these for awareness. These were for sale recently (the guy had three of them) and were being sold as reproductions (and priced accordingly):
These use an original makers mark but were definitely made much later (probably in the 80's/90's). Either way, cool looking reproduction sign. _________________ RPM=(MPH*336* (R&P*4th*1.26))/Tire Diameter in inches |
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crukab Samba Chef
Joined: December 13, 2002 Posts: 6116 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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Found these last month at an Estate sale, they were up aginst a garage walll w/ the rusty back sides showing, $25 !!
My son found a stack of the Porsche Diesel signs cleaning out the In-Laws garage................ _________________ Tom
My Pops:
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I know you will always be with me, rest in peace with no more pain. 8/13/14.....
In the yard right now:
'51 Dodge 5 window truck
'65 Bug
'66 Singlecab
'82 Rabbit Truck Diesel from CALI
'86 Doublecab W/T
'91 Vanagon carat/wolfsbrg.Tiico
'88 Dodge Ram pickup
'11 Jetta Wagon |
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RalphMH Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 85 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:32 am Post subject: Re: Porcelain Enamel Sign Fest |
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No signs, but original dimension sheets from the 1950s. These were available from the VW advertising department for those who wanted to make their own signs or facade decorations.
I have made one number unrecognizable in each case, because I want to see in case my scans are used somewhere else. Sorry |
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