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dustpan Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2011 Posts: 12 Location: hitchhiking at the end of space to get a bite to eat
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:19 am Post subject: Engine curiosity |
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So I'm looking to buy a 1971 beetle through a friends friend and when inspecting it I found that the engine isn't what I'm used to seeing. Unfortunately I didn't think to take a photo of it till I got home but I found online a similar image.
I'm just curious about what has been done to the engine.
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Kjb13 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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The single, centrally mounted carb has been removed and replaced with dual carbs. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:24 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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Dual single barrel carbs, 009 distributor, blue coil, aftermarket crank pulley and aftermarket 36hp style fan shroud.
Could be otherwise stock, but you should ask the seller what's been done to it.
Looks like a nice clean, maybe new, engine and the car looks good from here. please post more pics. _________________ Glenn
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dustpan Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2011 Posts: 12 Location: hitchhiking at the end of space to get a bite to eat
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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He said it was a stock rebuilt engine. On a side note the body though it needs a paint job is in fantastic shape with very little rust to the amount of it's really just nitpicking lol.
Btw the photo is not of the car I am looking to buy, I just found that photo online and am just using it as an example. |
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5593 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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Btw the photo is not of the car I am looking to buy, |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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runamoc wrote: |
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Btw the photo is not of the car I am looking to buy, |
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dustpan Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2011 Posts: 12 Location: hitchhiking at the end of space to get a bite to eat
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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I'm pretty sure I'd put the engine back to stock but I think the body and chassis is worth the low price he is asking for. |
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7276 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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dustpan wrote: |
... Unfortunately I didn't think to take a photo of it till I got home but I found online a similar image.
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labraynard Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2008 Posts: 120 Location: Coquille, OR
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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So what is the "low"price he's asking? I have a 71 with a 1835 with dual carb setup that looks like what you are looking at. Performance wise I would not go back to stock. I'm always curious when I hear the phrase " stock rebuild"...might want to ask who did the rebuild, what exactly did the rebuild entail. New jugs? Heads? rebuilt or ? Does he have any receipts showing what was purchased or any machine work done? |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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dustpan wrote: |
So I'm looking to buy a 1971 beetle through a friends friend and when inspecting it I found that the engine isn't what I'm used to seeing. Unfortunately I didn't think to take a photo of it till I got home but I found online a similar image.
I'm just curious about what has been done to the engine.
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The only way to accurately assess what’s been done would be take it all apart and measure everything, then you’ll know or you’ll have to ask very specific questions and believe what they are telling you |
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dustpan Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2011 Posts: 12 Location: hitchhiking at the end of space to get a bite to eat
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:34 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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I felt like doing a follow-up. Here is a picture of the actual engine in question. I've decided to buy the car, he's only asking $2500 for it. I pretty much just need to paint the car which I know someone who's a professional painter and will do the painting as long as I pay for the paint.
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:02 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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Besides all the aftermarket parts the thing that strikes me as janky is the plate that the coil is mounted too. At $2.5K hopefully you'll have some money left over to make some improvements and educate yourself. _________________ Roads Scholar &
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jay64 Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2008 Posts: 139 Location: Somerville, TN
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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Those are EMPI epc carbs with a different linkage. I had some on a stock 1600. Surprisingly they woke the motor up and ran really well. Still have them in a box in the shop. _________________ '76 BUG 2054cc |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9665 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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I'd get rid of the cross bar mounts on the carbs. They're not doing anything anyway.
Mount the coil in the proper spot. It's under that stupid aluminum plate.
Work on all the wiring hacks in the engine compartment.
Get a Wofsburg West sound deadener. And install that too. Your hearing will thank you for that.
Go to Halsey automotive or Discount Auto Parts and get some fresh air tube seals. If these shops are open, that is.
Move the fuel filter out of the engine compartment. Locate it next to the drivers side of the transmission.
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dustpan Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2011 Posts: 12 Location: hitchhiking at the end of space to get a bite to eat
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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I really appreciate everyone's information, it will be helpful for what I need to do to it since I wasn't planing on leaving as it is anyways. Btw in my neck of the woods $2500 is kind of a steal for the condition it's in I've seen cars in worse condition sell for $3000 and up, don't know what's up with the price hike in this area since they're not that difficult to find here. |
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bluebus86 Banned
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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add provisions for crankcase venting, the stock venting was removed. double on the fuel filter, the 95 cent filter can leak fuel right on the sparking dizzie, that is always bad.
ditto on linkage and other comments.
lets see the rest of your potential new ride, we love photos!
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9665 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Engine curiosity |
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dustpan wrote: |
I really appreciate everyone's information, it will be helpful for what I need to do to it since I wasn't planing on leaving as it is anyways. Btw in my neck of the woods $2500 is kind of a steal for the condition it's in I've seen cars in worse condition sell for $3000 and up, don't know what's up with the price hike in this area since they're not that difficult to find here. |
The market is inflated by the auction shows on TV. Everybody thinks that their car is worth more than it really is.
That said. You get what you pay for in this hobby.
I paid 3x what you did for an AZ car. Then had it shipped here. No rust issues, mechanically/electrically sound, and damn fun to drive. Is it perfect? No. Will it do the job I ask of it? Oh yes!
Good Luck. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
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