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TVAS Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2020 Posts: 9 Location: NV
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:10 am Post subject: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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My front drivers side wheel/tire is off center in the wheel well approximately 1"+ towards the rear. What parts/adjustments would change this condition? |
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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Prior sheet metal damage or front end damage. |
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TVAS Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2020 Posts: 9 Location: NV
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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Picture of drivers side and passenger side.
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14258 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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Can you post a couple pictures where the beam bolts to the frame and in front of that area? |
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TVAS Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2020 Posts: 9 Location: NV
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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williamblanda Don't Disgrace The Eddy!
Joined: September 09, 2008 Posts: 1380 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:14 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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Trim the dogleg behind the offending wheel and call it a day. What’s the gap measure on the front of the wheels? |
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sgmalt46 Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: south san francisco
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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dog leg looks strange on the close side.
like bad body work. the other side looks normal .
front gap looks right . _________________ 55 deluxe 23 window bus
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62DoKaGuy Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2011 Posts: 1276 Location: Surprise, AZ
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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For the sake of future reference, what year is this bus? Is it a Brazilian bus? Steering box looks like TRW. _________________ ,,Wenige Menschen denken, und doch wollen alle entscheiden.'' -der Alte Fritz
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...I went at it from both ends but going from the rear didn't seem to do anything, although I did spray some rust breaker in there... |
4/62 Double Cab
5/61 Panel (sold)
4/59 Single Cab (sold) |
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TVAS Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2020 Posts: 9 Location: NV
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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It is a Brazilian bus, 1974 manufacture date. Trimming the dogleg seems to be the quickest/easiest fix. |
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TVAS Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2020 Posts: 9 Location: NV
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:40 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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It is an older restoration, not well done. I replaced the 14" wheels with 185R tires (25" diameter) with 15" wheels with 205/75 (27" diameter). Smaller diameter tire did not present a problem.
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TVAS Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2020 Posts: 9 Location: NV
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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Thanks for the replies. I decided to order smaller tires 195/65-15 (25" diameter) as a quick fix. |
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DubStyle SBS Hit Squad
Joined: July 26, 2003 Posts: 6250 Location: SBS headquarters: Missery
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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The body is two different lengths at the back of the arch. The other thing, can you post a picture of the beam mounting location on the passenger side? _________________ Anthony
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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You can measure front wheel to back wheel on each side to see if its the frame bent or sheetmetal. The fender looks whacked to me |
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TVAS Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2020 Posts: 9 Location: NV
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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5/16 " inch shorter distance drivers side between wheels.
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TVAS Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2020 Posts: 9 Location: NV
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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sgmalt46 I believe nailed it. The driverside dogleg is wider than passenger side by a little over 3/4". Reworking the drivers side dogleg to match the passenger side will open up the space.
Thanks again for the reply's. |
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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Make it match the other side |
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TVAS Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2020 Posts: 9 Location: NV
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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"make it match the other side" Great idea, made template from other side.
Thanks again! |
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cru62 Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 4117 Location: Margaritaville.....24/7
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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Notice the missing beam mounting bolt washers on both sides. I’ll bet there are some missing at the rear of the beam as well. Before you go cutting up your finished body/paintwork, you should install all the correct mounting hardware and check the beam to assure that it is not tweaked. Remember, Brazilian buses were worked pretty hard in a country and time with poor roads. Don’t be at all surprised with what you find. _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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The front beam has some good dents on the side plates and center pin. Might be a good idea to take it to an alignment shop to check for straightness |
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PEPPE Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2003 Posts: 1068 Location: Roma Italy
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? |
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brazilian method of repair can be a 14 inch tyre on one side, and 15 inch on the other. |
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