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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:10 am    Post subject: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

My front drivers side wheel/tire is off center in the wheel well approximately 1"+ towards the rear. What parts/adjustments would change this condition?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

Prior sheet metal damage or front end damage.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

Picture of drivers side and passenger side.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

Can you post a couple pictures where the beam bolts to the frame and in front of that area?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

Trim the dogleg behind the offending wheel and call it a day. Whatís the gap measure on the front of the wheels?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

dog leg looks strange on the close side.
like bad body work. the other side looks normal .
front gap looks right .
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

For the sake of future reference, what year is this bus? Is it a Brazilian bus? Steering box looks like TRW.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

It is a Brazilian bus, 1974 manufacture date. Trimming the dogleg seems to be the quickest/easiest fix.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

It is an older restoration, not well done. I replaced the 14" wheels with 185R tires (25" diameter) with 15" wheels with 205/75 (27" diameter). Smaller diameter tire did not present a problem.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. I decided to order smaller tires 195/65-15 (25" diameter) as a quick fix.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

The body is two different lengths at the back of the arch. The other thing, can you post a picture of the beam mounting location on the passenger side?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

You can measure front wheel to back wheel on each side to see if its the frame bent or sheetmetal. The fender looks whacked to me
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

5/16 " inch shorter distance drivers side between wheels.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

sgmalt46 I believe nailed it. The driverside dogleg is wider than passenger side by a little over 3/4". Reworking the drivers side dogleg to match the passenger side will open up the space.

Thanks again for the reply's.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

Make it match the other side
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

"make it match the other side" Great idea, made template from other side.
Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

Notice the missing beam mounting bolt washers on both sides. Iíll bet there are some missing at the rear of the beam as well. Before you go cutting up your finished body/paintwork, you should install all the correct mounting hardware and check the beam to assure that it is not tweaked. Remember, Brazilian buses were worked pretty hard in a country and time with poor roads. Donít be at all surprised with what you find.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

The front beam has some good dents on the side plates and center pin. Might be a good idea to take it to an alignment shop to check for straightness
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Drivers side front Wheel/Tire not centered? Reply with quote

brazilian method of repair can be a 14 inch tyre on one side, and 15 inch on the other.
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