Windshield seal fit

[J1]

Replaced windshield seal with this “OE German” blocked seal from CIP1.
https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C24%2D143%2D845%2D121%2DC

Fit pretty well except this small gap. This seal seems to have a little less width than the one it replaced. Is this typical and I just have to wrestle with the seal and chrome trim? Or is this a substandard product?

I was also wondering if this notched lip along the bottom length of the opening is original and if it has something to do with the fit? Seemed a little odd.

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[rbsurfguy]

J1, I have a 71 and I don't have that strip with 'gripping teeth'. If you click on the link you provided for CIP1, the part for an earlier model description says"
FRONT WINDOW SEAL W/ GROOVE FOR MOLDING GHIA 67-69 (70-74 IF GRIPPING TEETH ARE REMOVED)
https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C16%2D143%2D121B

So it looks like if you remove that grip strip on there and using molding, you can order this other part. Not sure if that would make a difference on the fitting gap you show. You can always call and ask CIP1, they may have someone knowledgeable on specific details.
Jeff
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1971 Ghia convertible (Body off rebuild)
2019 VW Atlas 4Motion
2012 Passat-Sold


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Jeff's 71 Vert Restoration/Reassembly http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...highlight=

[Marcdeb]

I have a 71 also. Before I acquired the car, the dash was replaced with a 62 dash. I have the gripping teeth along the top, but the bottom ones were removed. The windshield in the car was just installed last year before I got the car and it had a very good fit. The seal was the blocked type like you mentioned. I wonder if your seal is just not seated correctly in that corner? My glass is out but the seal and trim are still all in tact as it was on the car when removed.

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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio

Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata

68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc

[didget69]

My '71 has the 'gripper teeth' around the full perimeter of windshield aperture.

Bryan
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[kgj]

If it’s any help, a few years ago, I paid an auto windscreen company to fit the screen in my black 1970 coupe.
I wasn’t happy with the result so pulled the screen out and fitted it another 3 times myself before I was even close to nearly happy with the fit. Mine had the gripper stuff too.
It also seemed too small to fill the gap.
Bit it did, just about, in the end.
Good luck.
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1958 coupe

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from my experience replacing windshield seals, although not many, and most without the chrome trim, the windshield can sometimes need to be adjusted side to side to even the gaps and also setting it in the sun so it can relax into place.
also make sure its completely seated in place.

[kgj]

I just remembered what I did a few yew years ago on my 1970.

I laid a few mm of silicone sealant on the edge of the screen to make the glass a few mm’s bigger on the edges that seem a little short.
Once it had gone off I trimmed it flush with a blade. This helped push the rubber out that extra bit to properly fill the screen hole in the car body.

Just my experience.
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1958 coupe

[Era Vulgaris]

I think it was common practice back in the day to use a short length of cord or string laid into the corners of the seal to "increase" the size of the windshield so that the seal fit correctly.

When I pulled the windshield out my 66 that I'm currently restoring, all 4 corners had a length of cord in them.
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98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue

[FRNKNSTNGHIA]

Looks like the outer lip of seal is tucked in, you need to use something to pull lip out. Should go to the line you see from the seal you replaced.

[J1]

Thanks all for the confirmation. It is seated fine as far as I can tell and it’s not tucked in so there’s definitely something off.

Gripping teeth? That’s a new VW term for me. Makes me think of my 16 pound alpha dog attacking a German Shepherd who then used his “gripping teeth” on my dogs rump, landing us in the ER.