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67_13Deluxe
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Good question. Im not sure but it could be feasible. No pictures of the dash though.
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 12:39 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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I thought about conversion kits for the rear window of Ovals.
But don't think windshield kits existed.
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finster
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:06 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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is the body number 3*8 693 - which puts it around may 58?
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janerick3
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:33 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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Since the car is a very late '58, I'm willing to bet the oval dash was grafted in when the car was new. Lack of pictures doesn't help.
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 6:41 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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Interesting that the heater ducts are at the front just like on a '56. The VIN plate is also held on with Phillips head screws so something shady going on there for a car that has never been restored.. Some sort of Frankencar. Definitely didn't come from the factor as described.
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finster
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:00 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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has anybody contacted the vendor to ask for photos of the front/back of the dash and chassis number?
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:34 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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yes
also, he added the vin to the ad- feb 58
I seem to remember someone here (H-town) telling me they had a car that was oval dash big window. tree had fallen on it or something
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rich caramadre
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:36 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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| splitjunkie wrote: |
| Interesting that the heater ducts are at the front just like on a '56. The VIN plate is also held on with Phillips head screws so something shady going on there for a car that has never been restored.. Some sort of Frankencar. Definitely didn't come from the factor as described. |
I saw that also. Wondering if it's really a 56' with a big rear window grafted. |
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finster
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 7:04 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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the stumbling point with all the claimed 'factory big window ovals' is the fact that it is not simply a case of fitting a later roof to an oval car. the windscreen is where the inner part which includes the dash is welded to the outer roof. the dash pressing includes the inner windscreen frame up to the headliner see pics below. to make an oval/big window zwitter they would have to weld together an inner panel made of an oval dash and a big window screen surround. why would they do that?
if the advertised car is from feb 58 that is 6 months after the big window change-over...
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 9:30 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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| finster wrote: |
the stumbling point with all the claimed 'factory big window ovals' is the fact that it is not simply a case of fitting a later roof to an oval car. the windscreen is where the inner part which includes the dash is welded to the outer roof. the dash pressing includes the inner windscreen frame up to the headliner see pics below. to make an oval/big window zwitter they would have to weld together an inner panel made of an oval dash and a big window screen surround. why would they do that?
if the advertised car is from feb 58 that is 6 months after the big window change-over...
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janerick3
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 10:09 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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Looks like the ad has been pulled...
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:23 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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| Any more information on this topic has anyone ever confirmed that volkswagen did in fact make any early 58 beetles with oval style dash |
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preciousemetals
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:24 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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| If it was real that would be a pretty cool car |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:27 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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It could of been a prototype like this one.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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^^ nice one glenn 
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| Any more information on this topic has anyone ever confirmed that volkswagen did in fact make any early 58 beetles with oval style dash |
no confirmation that I know of. most that turn up are ovals that have been updated with the big rear window kit in the past. the one that sparked this topic was unusual in that it had the larger windscreen too, but no photos of the dash...as I pointed out in my previous post this would not be a simple case of people on the assembly line making an oval reaching for a new big window part, shrugging their shoulders and fitting it. it would entail extra cutting and welding to fit. the changeover to big window production was done during the summer holiday shut down.
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preciousemetals
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:58 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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| yeah seems pretty interesting but Im wondering why nobody has ever mentioned it before I tried looking around and I really cant find any info on there being any cars like that |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:41 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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Another one.
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preciousemetals
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:01 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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| Interesting - if anyone can confirm of find a early 58 with an oval dash please post pics or any info that would be cool |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:32 am Post subject: Re: 1958 big window with factory oval dash? |
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| preciousemetals wrote: |
| Interesting - if anyone can confirm of find a early 58 with an oval dash please post pics or any info that would be cool |
I would also like to see
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