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HeinleinTrooper
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 Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Anti-freeze/coolant recommendations |
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My Vanagon shop/mentor mechanic uses Rowe coolant in Vanagons, too.
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Anti-freeze/coolant recommendations |
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I currently use Zerex G-05, but will be switching to G-48 on the next maintenance cycle. Valvoline is the supplier to Mercedes, so I just use their coolant products in all my engines.
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hardway
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Anti-freeze/coolant recommendations |
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I did not used to believe it but I now seen enough evidence that G48 Valvoline is the same as MBZ blue, VW G11 and BMW blue. I get it in Rowe or Valvoline. It is interesting that VW specs a two year drain interval, BMW lifetime and MBZ said 10 years last I looked.
But for VAG products I am with tjet. I use G13 in mine. I think that VW uses a different G system for coolant ID than the rest of the world. Or else 11=48.
Honda specs borate free. There are a lot of theories out there about coolant chemistry. Just don't use silcate formulas unless you are scrupulous about drain intervals. The silicates are designed to drop out of solution to fill eroded areas.
It is difficult and time consuming to purge all traces of old coolant out of anything but even more so on Vanagons. Please use distilled or demineralized water. And disregard old wives tails about hungry electrons in distilled water. |
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Anti-freeze/coolant recommendations |
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Somewhere I have a technical bulletin from MB stating very plainly that Valvoline is the supplier of the coolant they sell at the dealer for astronomic prices. It was G-05 and now is G-48. VAG and MB both share nearly all the same parts suppliers, so I feel comfortable using the specs from one on the other's engines. Plus, I can run to the local parts store and pick up Zerex.
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syncroAustralia
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: Anti-freeze/coolant recommendations |
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| It is interesting that VW specs a two year drain interval, BMW lifetime and MBZ said 10 years last I looked.. |
G11 is lifetime. Check owners manual. G12+ G13 etc requires replacement.
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:22 am Post subject: Re: Anti-freeze/coolant recommendations |
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No automotive fluid is lifetime.
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4Gears4Tires
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Anti-freeze/coolant recommendations |
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Lifetime* of the fluid.
* probably the lifetime of a hamster.
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jlrftype7
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:15 am Post subject: Re: Anti-freeze/coolant recommendations |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| I currently use Zerex G-05, but will be switching to G-48 on the next maintenance cycle. Valvoline is the supplier to Mercedes, so I just use their coolant products in all my engines. |
i use Zerex as well. No issues so far. Land Rover did use G-48 with the BMW sourced V-8 when they had it for the 3 years it was in the older Range Rover, but all other engines since the early '00s have been DexCool for them , same for Jaguar.
Not much in the way of steel fittings or pipes like on our Vanagons, but plenty of Aluminum, and lots of plastic piping and manifolds.
I used Dex-Cool on 80's BMWs before BMW even switched fully out of the older Green Coolant and over to the Blue Coolant in the later 90s.
All of the later Coolants are so much better at not dropping out the Silicates, due to not having them in the first place, which would adhere to many places in an engine , clogging things up eventually like with the old Coolants.
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