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fl59bug Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1976 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:33 pm Post subject: Scratched #4 main journal |
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While fighting the snap ring I accidentally placed some scratches in the small #4 journal on my 84mm crank with the snap ring pliers. Any suggestions how to fix?
I did contact CB and all they told me was to use some Emory cloth. I see a roll of 400 grit emory cloth on Amazon and will use that if there isn't a quicker/better means of removing the scratch.
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Ohio Tom Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: Marshallville Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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Looks minor..
400-600 grit is fine..
Local auto parts stores have it.
Use some oil with it. WD40 makes a great lube for wet-sanding.
Just a few seconds should be fine. |
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Nightshift Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2019 Posts: 222
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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Buy the correct polishing paper from Goodson Tools or take to a local shop. If I caught any of my guys using Emory Cloth on a crank, It was their last day on the job. |
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fl59bug Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1976 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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Thanks guys! |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31362 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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Yo do know that the bearing itself will not contact the crankshaft, it rides on a tiny film of engine oil. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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fl59bug Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1976 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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Cusser wrote: |
Yo do know that the bearing itself will not contact the crankshaft, it rides on a tiny film of engine oil. |
Lol yes this is true. So long as the metal displaced from the scratches is not high enough to make contact with the bearing despite the oil film I should be good.
Just wanted to be safe and ask everyone in advance since this is my first stroker build and sorta pricey
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76912 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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Nightshift wrote: |
Buy the correct polishing paper from Goodson Tools or take to a local shop. If I caught any of my guys using Emory Cloth on a crank, It was their last day on the job. |
^^^^^
This
Use Crocus cloth
https://www.mcmaster.com/crocus-cloth/ _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
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fl59bug Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1976 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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thanks Glenn.
I see this one and will happily scoop it up if it will work:
https://www.mcmaster.com/8238A54 |
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Busstom Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 3844 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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Yeah, don't lose sleep over it, that's extremely minor. You'll never know the difference or have any different outcome whether you use some 600 grit from the big box store or that roll of crocus from McMaster. In fact, at 1500-2000 grit that you linked, you might as well rub it with newspaper.
What's more, it looks like the worst of it is near the shoulder, followed by the end of the journal near the snout. The bearing isn't positioned near either of those areas...have you seen how skinny that bearing is? Just saying.
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fl59bug Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1976 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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Good points you made Tom |
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fl59bug Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1976 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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Well, it sounds like a couple folks recommended 600, or at least said it was passable. The Goodson or McMaster abrasives are an option, but slower to get and a few more dollars than a pack of O'Reilly 600 grit, so I'm leaning towards the 600 with just a quick pass over the journal with WD-40 to wet it down.
There are also a couple good points made about the fact that the oil film and narrow bearing won't really allow much contact with the scratch anyway. |
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bugguy1967 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 4341 Location: Los Angeles, CA 90016
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2385452 _________________ "A petrol engine can start readily, run smoothly and give every appearance of being in good order, without necessarily being in good tune." - Colin Campbell, "The Sportscar Engine" |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26785 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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AWESOME |
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fl59bug Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1976 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Scratched #4 main journal |
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Thank you sir! Just responded to the classified ad.
Ted |
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