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JerseyGhia Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2011 Posts: 14 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject: How many Ghias are still out there? |
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If there were +-300k Ghias made any stats on how many still exist?
I imagine that in a perfect world out of whatever is left out there every year some get restored others lost forever, meaning that every year that passes we have less Ghias in need of restoration. I'm sure there are still tons of them out there, but theoretically a long way down the road we could come to a day where junk yard or long forgotten barn ghias will cease to exist with only perfectly restored cars left. Now what kind of a world would that be?!
So any data or guess on how many Ghias still exist today? |
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jason_hamilton Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2003 Posts: 1118 Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Actual production is over 500,000 when you count Coupes, Cabrios and RHD versions. Even assuming just 10% are left (restored, on the road or in storage/barns/fields - not crushed), I'd guess 50,000 worldwide. Probably 15-20 thousand are road-worthy. _________________ Jason Hamilton
1969 Karmann Ghia coupe
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32584 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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JerseyGhia Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2011 Posts: 14 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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You Ghia Killer you! |
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Deluxe Lowlight Ghia Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2006 Posts: 1037 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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I killed my 57 and im gonna kill a 59 soon to save the dead 57 _________________ These vws are cool but the people who own them are far more valuable. Keep friends close they can be taken away overnight.
57 ghia
59 patina ghia
61 patina Ghia
71 bus
73 super beetle
74 thing
75 half bug |
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sputnick60 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 22, 2007 Posts: 3915 Location: In Molinya Orbit
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wolfgang klinkert Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2009 Posts: 293 Location: NRW - Germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:39 am Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? |
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JerseyGhia wrote: |
... So any data or guess on how many Ghias still exist today? ... |
I have only information about the registered Karmann Ghias in Germany.
Here is the last published report from the year 2008:
As you see, the numbers of cars are sinking permanently from year to year ... But therefore the prices are raising.
If every country all over the world would have such kind of statistcs, we could add them all together ... _________________ With cordial "Karmann Ghia"-greetings from Germany
(O = i = O) ~~~ Wolfgang Klinkert ~~~ (O = i = O)
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squonk Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2011 Posts: 257 Location: Upstate New York
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Interesting. I wonder if the 1:1 to 2:1 ratio of Ghias sacrificed to Ghias restored that seems to be showing up in this thread is observable everywhere. That would certainly draw down the number of Ghias that are left in a hurry. _________________ '71 Ghia cabriolet |
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JerseyGhia Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2011 Posts: 14 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info, interesting. I better get my Ghia before I get priced out!
Only 2600 in Germany, I guess it didnt sell that much there huh?
I can see a Hollywood movie now where some maniac goes around "killing" Ghias to raise the price of his collection! |
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wolfgang klinkert Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2009 Posts: 293 Location: NRW - Germany
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:47 am Post subject: |
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JerseyGhia wrote: |
... Only 2600 in Germany ... |
Please note, that we had only 201 registered type 34 in the year 2008 in Germany - but we had 154 as a new world record on the event "50 years Karmann Ghia type 34" a few weeks ago
I think this is a very good result. ... although some of them came from abroad. _________________ With cordial "Karmann Ghia"-greetings from Germany
(O = i = O) ~~~ Wolfgang Klinkert ~~~ (O = i = O)
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KG1965 Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2005 Posts: 114 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:41 am Post subject: |
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It's interesting to see how the numbers in Germany dropped.
In 1988 to 2007 for type 14 with a total af 4.452 en for the type 34 a total of 553.
I was wondering how the TUV in Germany has influence in this figure.
When was the German TUV introduced?
Can you help us Wolfgang?
greetings Gerard _________________ 1958 Karmann Ghia Coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia Cabrio (sold)
1965 Karmann Ghia Coupe (sold)
1963 Karmann Ghia Type 34
1968 Karmann Ghia Type 34 |
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wolfgang klinkert Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2009 Posts: 293 Location: NRW - Germany
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:01 am Post subject: |
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Hello Gerard,
KG1965 wrote: |
... When was the German TUV introduced? ... |
the German "TUEV" was founded in 1872 for testing the safety of steam boilers.
Cars have to be checked by "TUEV" in Germany since 1961. _________________ With cordial "Karmann Ghia"-greetings from Germany
(O = i = O) ~~~ Wolfgang Klinkert ~~~ (O = i = O)
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KG1965 Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2005 Posts: 114 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:43 am Post subject: |
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wolfgang klinkert wrote: |
Hello Gerard,
KG1965 wrote: |
... When was the German TUV introduced? ... |
the German "TUEV" was founded in 1872 for testing the safety of steam boilers.
Cars have to be checked by "TUEV" in Germany since 1961. |
Thanks Wolfgang !
In the Netherlands the APK (MOT / TUEV) was introduced in 1980 (only 30 years ago) In this year a lot of cars where crushed.
Gerard _________________ 1958 Karmann Ghia Coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia Cabrio (sold)
1965 Karmann Ghia Coupe (sold)
1963 Karmann Ghia Type 34
1968 Karmann Ghia Type 34 |
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zzhayward Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2005 Posts: 258 Location: Philomath, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? |
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I have have owned approx 20 of these ghias. Two 62 verts and the rest coupes. I have restored and sold most of them. I am down to two 67's, and a 68 that I am currently restoring. I have cut up: two 74's, a 66 vert, a 70 coupe, a 67 coupe. I have crashed and destroyed a 67 and a 59. My friend had their barn fall on a 58. They are getting rarer. Look what happened to 356 prices. I had a 62 356 coupe that I sold for $ 3200 and thought I had scored. And then the 21 window rag top bus I bought for$250 and sold for $350. Times change but prices change faster. |
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simon varley Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2020 Posts: 175 Location: Geelong Australia
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ELFRIED Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2017 Posts: 410 Location: belgium
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:42 am Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? |
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Here in Belgium ghia's are a rare thing.
The last approx 10 years I remember seeing 2 on the road.
Or people keep them in their garage?? |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13952 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Ant B Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2019 Posts: 157 Location: surrey, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:17 am Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? |
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There is another ghia coupe in the next vilage to me.
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13952 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Ant B Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2019 Posts: 157 Location: surrey, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? |
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my next door neibhour has an early bay window camper and a beetle.
five houses down has a 15 window split screen bus.
there is another bay window camper about half mile away.
he he he
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