"Otto" The Auto 71 - Blue's new brother.

[Bobnotch]

[KollynnBlackpaw]

Finishing up as soon as the new fuel pump comes in! Question, purely out of curiosity (NO even if it's possible, I never would) can you push/roll start a VW Automatic? How about an Auto-Stick? I never really thought about it until I had a friend complaining about his automatic Maverick and wishing he could just push start it, as his cheap battery is, well, cheap.
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'71 Shantung Yellow AT/FI Squareback

[Mike Fisher]

Not possible to push start an automatic, so I always carry jumper cables in the frunk!
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69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold

Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey

[KollynnBlackpaw]

[Qldelsie]

When I worked offshore Louisiana back in the '70's, my old automatic Ford Falcon would often not start when I came back in to town from my hitch on the rig. Always used to get a push off one of the other guys to start it - You just had to be going fast enough for the auto to engage. It doesn't work if you are going too slow, but it does work. Did for me, anyhow.
Not saying it is good for the car, either. But we used to do it all the time.
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[KollynnBlackpaw]

[KollynnBlackpaw]

Hey y'all! Otto's finally back home after a long journey - the last 6 months have been pulling cars and parts from the property I bought a ton of stuff off of, so I haven't been able to give him the love he needs. He officially runs great, stinger sounds great, 1641 is excellent and everything - however I'm running into an issue. In short, I cannot get him to rev! Be it from the pedal or the motor, he will not rev in park. However, another issue is he seems almost like he's in reverse when he's in park? I haven't officially tested yet, as I'm a bit short on space at the moment, but when I turn him off after playing with him in park, he shuffles forward to a stop. I have the e-brake on, and he's in park, so I don't see why he'd scoot forward a couple inches if he's in park, so my guess is he's somehow in reverse.

I've been working on getting him a windshield to solve my leaky windowsill, as well, and some other parts for him. While I may not have been working on him this entire time, I've been thinking of him.

Thanks y'all!
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'71 Shantung Yellow AT/FI Squareback

[Mike Fisher]

[KollynnBlackpaw]

I've already fixed the shifter alignment - that was quite simple. I've still not figured out the revving issue. Yes, I know, I've been messing with other cars. I've had a lot of fortune finding things to rescue, such as my '66 Variant, and my rare Mazda REPU I purchased, and have had to put a lot of work into getting them off the property they're stranded on.

Now it's Otto's turn for attention again, I'd really like to find some help with the revving issue.
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'71 Shantung Yellow AT/FI Squareback

[Mike Fisher]

I would think it was a timing/mechanical/vacuum advance issue to keep it from revving.
You've probably never cleaned the trigger points behind the metal plate on the distributor.
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69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold

Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey

[KollynnBlackpaw]

[Mike Fisher]

Drag a business card etc through the 2 spring loaded trigger points until they are clean.
Head temp sensor is something else to check. It's all in the brown Bentley.
You've had 3-4 FI squares in the last 4 years and haven't dug into Any of them enough to learn how to tune them.
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69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold

Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey

[KollynnBlackpaw]

[KollynnBlackpaw]

Jon went thru the dizzy so it's all clean inside, I cleaned the contact points anyways. No change. Temp sensor is hooked up right, no change. This is seriously throwing me off!!!! Everything is hooked up right, all vac lines are where they should be, all lines including fuel are new. I just don't get it! I'd expect it to at least try to die or something.
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'71 Shantung Yellow AT/FI Squareback

[Mike Fisher]

Just verifying that the temp sensor is hooked up doesn't tell you it's working!
You have to test components for Resistance with your VOM & Bentley Troubleshooting values.
Did you pull off the MPS & test it for vacuum?
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69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold

Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey

[KollynnBlackpaw]

[Mike Fisher]

Did you twist the distributor left/right while it is idling to see if it would rev better?
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69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold

Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey

[Bobnotch]

[KollynnBlackpaw]

No timing light, but moving the dizzy doesnt make it rev still. It'll idle worse or better, of course, but still no revs from moving the throttle no matter where it is. I have to borrow my neighbors timing gun again to set the timi g to where it was. I'm going to install Blue's distributor this weekend to see if that helps. I'm at a total loss otherwise, completely stumped. I've checked every electrical connection I can think of and all wires are good and hooked where they should be. The connectors are a bit loose however for the #3 injector and the MPS. Does the TPS need adjusted possibly? Or maybe that's out of whack inside?

I checked for vac lines on all vac hoses and they're good and hooked where they should be, electrical connections for related items are good, fuel flow is good, timing is good, throttle moves freely, I simply don't get it!

I just don't get it. I'd assume if something isn't reading right, opening the throttle would either rev it or kill it with all the extra air flow.
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'71 Shantung Yellow AT/FI Squareback

[KollynnBlackpaw]

Dizzy swap didn't do anything - still ran fantastic, still no revving.
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'71 Shantung Yellow AT/FI Squareback