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Qldelsie
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 Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:55 pm Post subject: Bumper bar grommets |
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What size are the bumper bar grommets for a 1970 Fastback ? Or, to put it another way, which Beetle part numbers do we use to get the correct size part ?
At the front, the length of the hole is 100 mm and 20 mm wide, so I am thinking the one in the attached photo would fit since is says "100 mm long". At the back, the hole is only 70 mm long and 30 mm wide - a bit shorter and wider than at the front (although the PO may have "adjusted" the width slightly !!)
Anyone know the correct ones - Or do we just suck it and see ?
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Giles
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VWporscheGT3
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| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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to be honest im not sure the type 3's got them
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KTPhil 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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| VWporscheGT3 wrote: |
| to be honest im not sure the type 3's got them |
My '71 never had them, front or rear. Up front, the fender hole has rolled edges so the rubber wouldn't fit tightly anyway. In the rear it's a flat hole edge but the bracket is a larger composite of two pieces and any rubber would not fit tightly.
Besides, unlike the early Bug, whose brackets intruded into the otherwise sealed front tire well, on the Type 3, both sides are open to the elements, so there's really nothing to seal. |
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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| KTPhil wrote: |
| VWporscheGT3 wrote: |
| to be honest im not sure the type 3's got them |
My '71 never had them, front or rear. Up front, the fender hole has rolled edges so the rubber wouldn't fit tightly anyway. In the rear it's a flat hole edge but the bracket is a larger composite of two pieces and any rubber would not fit tightly.
Besides, unlike the early Bug, whose brackets intruded into the otherwise sealed front tire well, on the Type 3, both sides are open to the elements, so there's really nothing to seal. |
Yup, type 3s never got a seal on the bumper irons to body. Even the early cars didn't get them.
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Qldelsie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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Hmmmmm. Very interesting.
Seems surprising that it is almost the same shape hole as every other ac VW, yet they chose not to put them in. Saving money, I guess 
I shall go "naked" then.
Clatter - You going naked too ??
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Clatter
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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Clatter - You going naked too ??
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I prefer “commando”.. 
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ALLWAGONS
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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AFAIK only type 34 use them.
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eyetzr
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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The bug grommets will fit the rear with a bit of adjustment. Mario had been working on doing some. Not sure how or if it was finished. As far as the front goes, you my friend have been tasked with getting a prototype done so we can get some reproduced.
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Qldelsie
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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| eyetzr wrote: |
| As far as the front goes, you my friend have been tasked with getting a prototype done so we can get some reproduced. |
Watch this space - Some 100 mm ones arrive tomorrow ! |
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Qldelsie
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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And for Clatter that would mean that if the front ones fit, I shall only be "commando" from the rear ! Bit like wearing chaps, really  |
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Qldelsie
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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OK, 111 207 193, "Grommet Bumper Bar s/Bug Front, only 100 mm" appears to be perfect. I haven't put them on yet because I need a second pair of hands to make it easier and quicker to take the bumper off and on again, but they are just right.
Now need to work on the rear ones..........
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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So the 100mm fits. Exciting news.
So no more commando! 
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Qldelsie
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper bar grommets |
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| eyetzr wrote: |
So the 100mm fits. Exciting news.
So no more commando! |
Not at the front, anyway !!!! |
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