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Yabbadubbadoo Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:35 am Post subject: Brake fluid reservoir |
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Need to see a dual circuit reservoir in an early type 3.
Upgraded my master cylinder from single to dual circuit and realised that the strap which holds the old reservoir bottle will probably not fit a dual circuit reservoir.
Who can shed some light on this for me?
Cheers Paolo. _________________ Sydney, Australia.
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RedSquare Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2017 Posts: 238 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:01 am Post subject: Re: Brake fluid reservoir |
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Not sure how “early” you are looking for, but here are pics of the reservoir on my 1968 Squareback. It doesn’t have a strap, but instead has two little tabs on the bottom (one on each of the short sides) that appear to be made to slot under the tray that holds the reservoir. The one side you can see well in these pics is not slotted under the tray, although it looks like it should be. The other side of it (towards the cab of the vehicle) has a very small screw through the tab into the supporting tray.
Don’t know if this is the year you were looking for, and don’t know if mine is even attached correctly (now that I’ve looked at it closely), but it feels like it is in there pretty solid.
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W1K1 Samba Member
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Yabbadubbadoo Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Brake fluid reservoir |
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W1K1 wrote: |
Clatter just did his brake reservoir on his thread |
Thanks mate, seems he has a reservoir that fits in the original strap. Hoping I could just buy the right res to fit in the originsl strap but with two nozzles under. _________________ Sydney, Australia.
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Yabbadubbadoo Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: Brake fluid reservoir |
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RedSquare wrote: |
Not sure how “early” you are looking for, but here are pics of the reservoir on my 1968 Squareback. It doesn’t have a strap, but instead has two little tabs |
Thanks for the pics. I bought that reservoir whilst ordering other parts recently but realised it required modification to my old mounting strap. Hoping someone knows where I can get a dual reservoir that fits the old single circuit reservoir strsp. _________________ Sydney, Australia.
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pitargue Samba Member
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T3Yoshi Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2016 Posts: 158 Location: Sonoma County
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Brake fluid reservoir |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
I show a pretty detailed process for fitting up a 67 dual circuit reservoir on an earlier front clip on page one of my thread.
I already had the wider strap for the reservoir so all I had to do was widen the mount area to make the strap fit and widen the pass through for two brake lines instead of one. _________________ 1967 Squareback |
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T3Yoshi Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2016 Posts: 158 Location: Sonoma County
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Brake fluid reservoir |
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You can probably make that strap if you cant find one for sale... _________________ 1967 Squareback |
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Yabbadubbadoo Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Brake fluid reservoir |
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Thanks for the info T3Yoshi. Its exactly what I needed to see. The 67 reservoir certainly follows the law of supply and demand but it does look very much like the old one. I have a choice now.
1. Pay a hefty price for a similar looking, crusty, 50 year old plastic bottle and modify the metal mounting bracket to suit.
2. Use a brand new reservoir from later model, which i didn't pay much for, looks a fair bit different to original and has a different mounting bracket also requiring some mods to fit.
I'm leaning towards option 2 unless a neat looking 67 reservoir drops in my lap in the next few days....
This is the one I bought without considering the options.
_________________ Sydney, Australia.
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Yabbadubbadoo Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Brake fluid reservoir |
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Thinking I'll go with the later model tray setup. Found this bolt on style tray is a better solution for me as those 67 reservoirs are way to expensive due to scarcity for what you get. I'd rather a new reservoir than a crunchy old one for the money.
Saw this setup on a 1600TLE. A couple of nutserts popped into the right location and your done. Obviously have to cut and fill any holes from the old strap first.
_________________ Sydney, Australia.
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Bobnotch Samba Member
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T3Yoshi Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 am Post subject: Re: Brake fluid reservoir |
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Yabbadubbadoo wrote: |
Thinking I'll go with the later model tray setup. Found this bolt on style tray is a better solution for me as those 67 reservoirs are way to expensive due to scarcity for what you get. I'd rather a new reservoir than a crunchy old one for the money.
Saw this setup on a 1600TLE. A couple of nutserts popped into the right location and your done. Obviously have to cut and fill any holes from the old strap first.
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This set up and the one Bob showed sound like good ideas.
Tracking a decent early one down and also getting all the fittings could be a pain. Clatter recently posted about difficulties getting proper fitting for the 67 style reservoir... _________________ 1967 Squareback |
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Yabbadubbadoo Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:12 am Post subject: Re: Brake fluid reservoir |
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T3Yoshi wrote: |
Yabbadubbadoo wrote: |
Thinking I'll go with the later model tray setup. Found this bolt on style tray is a better solution for me as those 67 reservoirs are way to expensive due to scarcity for what you get. I'd rather a new reservoir than a crunchy old one for the money.
Saw this setup on a 1600TLE. A couple of nutserts popped into the right location and your done. Obviously have to cut and fill any holes from the old strap first.
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This set up and the one Bob showed sound like good ideas.
Tracking a decent early one down and also getting all the fittings could be a pain. Clatter recently posted about difficulties getting proper fitting for the 67 style reservoir... |
I found one relatively easily on a local Facebook page.
Just test fitting it on an old front clip I've pillaged various sections off.
First thing I noticed was the bolt holes were a fraction too wide for easy installation in the original single circuit reservoir spot.
The ovalized embossed section on the firewall behind the old reservoir seemed like the best place to locate the nutserts and keep everything centered nicely. I moved the bolt holes on the bracket to suit.
While I was at it I put two more nutserts for the reservoir hold down bolts.
_________________ Sydney, Australia.
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Yabbadubbadoo Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:20 am Post subject: Re: Brake fluid reservoir |
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This is what it looks like underneath with the old bolt holes trimmed off.
Nutserts are all M5 size. Will use more original looking bolts for final fit out.
_________________ Sydney, Australia.
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