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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Hi Antoine,

again... my utmost respect Cool

Both, for not giving up and the the quality and persistence of your great work. One thing that is great about your posts is, that I am learning so many details of how our beloved Ghias are build Laughing

Cheers
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Thanks a lot for the support guys! Still having issue with my beetle's engine, can't wait for it to be finished and start again 100% on the ghia!

But in the meanwhile I still did manage to do more on it Very Happy
There was still one last step to finish the right wheel well:
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Yes, this bottom part was pretty rusted out so time for it to go..preparing the replacement:
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under it wasn't better either: Laughing
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all cut:
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I changed the wheel well metal and the new heater channel will then be welded on it. So let's take the TIG out Twisted Evil :
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and fully replaced:
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and in primer:
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Feels so good seeing the progress here:
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stay tuned for a next update soon!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
So, still doing some progress on that project Very Happy

After finishing the right side, I started on the left.

First checking/adjusting the parts I made for the left airbox:
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And then removed the old rusted airbox:
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Under it.. well some holes Laughing
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So I started checking the replacement panel:
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As for the other side, the top curve doesn’t fit:
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So I corrected it:

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Then marked how big this panel is:

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And where I should cut to remove all the rust but keep the original indent:
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Then.. cut!

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And putting the panel to cut it precisely, cut and adjusted for welding:
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Sadly I then discovered that my argon bottle is empty.. so welding next time!

I also prepared the next steps by grinding down the old welding points:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Looking good!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Hi can you please provide some more details on how you did the fish mouth holes for the wiring?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Your work along with these great pictures are very educational and provide much information so useful to understanding the construction of the Karmann Ghia. I am learning a lot from seeing your work. The hard part for me would be getting new inner metal lined up perfectly so that exterior metal will line up properly and have correct gaps! You have a lot of skill.

Votre projet est très intéressant.
Nice work Antoine.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Thanks a lot guys for the nice words! Very Happy

@Mellow Yellow 74: sure, here is how I do it:
1)First cutting the opening (if I remember well 2cms long but not sure..) with the angle grinder
2) Push a bit each side of the hole using something softer than steel to not mark it ( I love my corking tool from Cornfield custom but you can use whatever you want!):
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3)push through a tube with a growing diameter (I used my tool to point before boring holes, I don’t know the name in english):
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So basically, I use an angle grinder and these tools:
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So, I finished welding my panel after picking up a new bottle of Argon:
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And after planishing:
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I also continued the front axle assembly:
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Putting grease wherever needed:
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And started cleaning the 60 only gearbox:
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-Current Status:
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Cheers

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Great work as always Antoine. As for the name of the tool with the point, it is called a Punch...Peut-être un coup de poing?

Not sure if that translates correctly in French. Love watching your build!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Thanks for the tool name.. and the kind words Very Happy

So, sometimes you have to take a few steps back to get it as wished.. I had welded my pan halves almost 1,5 years ago and even if robust, the welding aspect wasn’t that good.. i had left it, but I decided that I can’t let a part of the build not making me proud so.. I redid it Embarassed

Primer removed, welding cleaned, rewelded where necessary, ground down and back in primer Very Happy
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And as it’s good for regular checking, I mounted the front panel back with some grips and this time didn’t forget to take some pictures:
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And my favorite, my motivation-boosting picture: Twisted Evil Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Well Done!
Starting to look like a car Wink

Clamping on the fenders and the nose has to motivate you - keep going Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
WOW. Thanks for taking the time to archive your build and show all the detailed work that you have done. It will help a lot of people with their cars and be a great source of information for years to come. Well done Sir. You have inspired me to begin my long stalled project.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Looking real good now sir.
wonderful work.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Thanks so much guys, really feels good being a part of the ghia Community! Very Happy

Due to family holidays, I had only a couple hours for the ghia but step by step it‘s getting solid Very Happy

I took care of those holes:
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Cutting after lots of measurement:
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And a „Pizza-Box“ Template for the tube:
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Patch panel ready:
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Welded from behind like original:
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In position:
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Welded:
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And in primer:
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Cheers

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:14 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Always excited to see your posts Antoine. Your project is especially helpful as you are showing the deepest parts of
the Karmann Ghia that are not normally visible. It is a great way to document how these cars are built. Your work is motivating. Applause
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
Antoine,

very nice to see continious progress.

You even made the best of the less hours you had for the 60. Looks pretty good and I am always inspired of the creative way you´re making new parts. I really like the Pizza-technique!! AWESOME Wink

Keep going!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
TRS63 wrote:
Thanks a lot guys for the nice words! Very Happy

@Mellow Yellow 74: sure, here is how I do it:
1)First cutting the opening (if I remember well 2cms long but not sure..) with the angle grinder
2) Push a bit each side of the hole using something softer than steel to not mark it ( I love my corking tool from Cornfield custom but you can use whatever you want!):
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


3)push through a tube with a growing diameter (I used my tool to point before boring holes, I don’t know the name in english):
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


So basically, I use an angle grinder and these tools:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


So, I finished welding my panel after picking up a new bottle of Argon:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


And after planishing:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


I also continued the front axle assembly:
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Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Putting grease wherever needed:
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And started cleaning the 60 only gearbox:
-before:
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-Current Status:
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Cheers

Antoine

When I first pulled the split case trans in my 59 the thing looked like the Mother Alien had gooped the thing. I replace the front seal and re-torqued everything. After driving it a bit I had a leak in the nose cone area and assumed it was from the shift rod tube. Pulled it out and stuck it in a corner. After a good coat of dust settled I realized the shift rod was totally dry. There was mild indication of some weeping at the case halfs but not much. All the oil was coming out of the breather then trailing back from there. I have recently installed a small small brass L hose connector that I will connect a hose vent to. Hopefully this will stop the leaks. Lots of other people have had issues with early vent holes.
Your metal work looks great and makes me want to work some more metal.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
What makes a 60 split case one year only? I know he front mount is one year only. Your work is amazing! Keep it up!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
TRS63 wrote:
Saying I was excited to come back home on friday is under the reality as I knew of a box waiting for me Embarassed Cool
Here it is:
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Yes you guessed:
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Oh man how great are these mats: Twisted Evil Cool
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Thanks a lot Luis for making it available Very Happy

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Awesome!! What color mats? I just ordered some in olive with extra paint for the shifter & ebrake boot.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
VeloMikey wrote:
What makes a 60 split case one year only? I know he front mount is one year only. Your work is amazing! Keep it up!


I am no expert there but I think the front part that connect to the chassis mount is the différence..maybe someone knows it better? Embarassed

@61karmann: the mats are grey like they would have been originally Very Happy

So, long time no updates, and this is a really small one Crying or Very sad but I had some issues the last months on the daily drivers and they are the time priority.. I want to work on the ghia without stress to enjoy the journey Wink

So I had only a couple hours this week but put back the tab holding the spare wheel on the driver‘s side Wink
Here on the original part I cut, doing a Template for the position:
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Position marked:
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Holes ready to weld it from the back:
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And then welding-primer and it's welded:
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Back side cleaned:
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And a small coat of primer to protect that part until I can continue:
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Cheers to all,

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote
I congratulate you on the quality of your work! So many small details Wink I especially like the coated, protected floorboards Applause I really like when someone tries to improve the original design in order for it to last longer Cool

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