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alexbeatle Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2020 Posts: 211 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:34 pm Post subject: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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Hi folks,
Just took off a woodboard which was covering the floor of my recently purchased VW bus, and it doesn't look too too good.
There're some holes, some surface rust, and rust that became a hole. Any suggestions on tackling this or how bad is it?
Thanks in advance.
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wagohn Samba Member

Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 744 Location: United States
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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alexbeatle wrote: |
Hi folks,
Just took off a woodboard which was covering the floor of my recently purchased VW bus, and it doesn't look too too good.
There're some holes, some surface rust, and rust that became a hole. Any suggestions on tackling this or how bad is it?
Thanks in advance.
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Paint with POR15 and drive/enjoy it.  _________________ 1976 VW Transporter, 2.0 FI Engine |
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orwell84 Samba Member

Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 2768 Location: Plattsburgh, New York
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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It depends on what your goals are for the bus. If there were just a few areas that were rusted through, I would weld in patch panels and wire wheel the rest, treat with naval jelly and the rust paint of your choice. |
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alexbeatle Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2020 Posts: 211 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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wagohn wrote: |
alexbeatle wrote: |
Hi folks,
Just took off a woodboard which was covering the floor of my recently purchased VW bus, and it doesn't look too too good.
There're some holes, some surface rust, and rust that became a hole. Any suggestions on tackling this or how bad is it?
Thanks in advance.
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Paint with POR15 and drive/enjoy it.  |
Isn't POR15 rust preventative, not for treating the existing? 🤔 |
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alexbeatle Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2020 Posts: 211 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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orwell84 wrote: |
It depends on what your goals are for the bus. If there were just a few areas that were rusted through, I would weld in patch panels and wire wheel the rest, treat with naval jelly and the rust paint of your choice. |
This is a camper bus, so planning to use it as such, i.e. not just for the casual city, flat road driving. |
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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 23777 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:22 am Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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If you have to ask.....
Treat and paint, install gear, and go camping. _________________ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ |
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HoboBus Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2016 Posts: 350 Location: Not Key West, unfortunately.
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:03 am Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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As for how bad it is... doesn't look too bad to me.
Look at some photos in the gallery, some guys can put a basketball through their floor when they bought their bus.
Everybody's different--- I like to wire wheel everything, wire wheel on a hand drill. Even dig a good screwdriver in to the rust to try to scrape it all.
Then I like the brush-on rust converter. Even Wal-Mart sells it. After that use a good brush-on rustoleum.
As for holes, welded patches are good if you have the capability. If not, screwed in covering patches are ok. I actually like screwed in things rather than pop rivets because you can remove the patch to retreat if needed. I've even used nuts and bolts with big washers to fill in holes.
If its not structural, its just the floor. Things don't always have to be perfect.
As others said, patch it up and get camping.
Good luck
Hobo _________________ Salt air it ain't thin, it'll stick right to your skin,
it'll make you feel fine. Makes you feel fine.
And I wanna be there. -- Jimmy Buffett
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 4515 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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Abscate wrote: |
If you have to ask.....
Treat and paint, install gear, and go camping. |
So NOW is the time for that Rustoleum?.......  _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17819 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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this is a rusted floor
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alexbeatle Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2020 Posts: 211 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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So using a wireblush I was able to get rid of the loose rust parts and got some portions to shine. But some, in the centre of the rust sports remain black. Am I not done brushing or this is as far as it goes? |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52729 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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Sounds like it's ready for some Ospho, Rust mort or phosphoric acid. Once that's had a day to react and is rinsed off move on with the Rustoleum. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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orwell84 Samba Member

Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 2768 Location: Plattsburgh, New York
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Sounds like it's ready for some Ospho, Rust mort or phosphoric acid. Once that's had a day to react and is rinsed off move on with the Rustoleum. |
You could keep going with repeated wire brushing and application of ospho or whatever to get the metal more shiny but there isn't much point. The only way to get all the rust out of pitted areas is to sandblast. I used the method BusDaddy described on parts of my cab floor and it has held up well for the last 7 years. I found places on one of the doors I had done like this 25 years ago and it was still holding up. |
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alexbeatle Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2020 Posts: 211 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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alexbeatle wrote: |
So using a wireblush I was able to get rid of the loose rust parts and got some portions to shine. But some, in the centre of the rust sports remain black. Am I not done brushing or this is as far as it goes? |
This is what I meant...
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alexbeatle Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2020 Posts: 211 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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Maybe I'm a noobie at this, but the more I brush off, the worse it looks. Or is it about the time to apply POR15?
Looking into investing into sanbluster |
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Lil Lulu Samba Member

Joined: December 08, 2007 Posts: 1790 Location: Mouth of the Columbia
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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Howโs it look from the bottom?
Floors in both buses looked similar to yours. I patched and patched and then Masterseries metal prep (phosphoric) and Masterseries silver. Then paint. All coatings were applied within a 24 hr period to take advantage of the chemical bond.
I really feel confident that I have stemmed the rust forever if I take care of it. Masterseries is a hell of product.
Looks like you have a date with a MIG. I used metal from other VW vehicles. Sandblasting takes a whole new skill set and youโll never get all the sand out. _________________ '65 Beetle "Lil' Lulu"- Ruby Red
1600 stock from '71 bus
'72 Deluxe - Niagara Blue w/pastelwiess Camper Special 2L dual 40 Webers 002
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alexbeatle Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2020 Posts: 211 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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Lil Lulu wrote: |
Howโs it look from the bottom?
Floors in both buses looked similar to yours. I patched and patched and then Masterseries metal prep (phosphoric) and Masterseries silver. Then paint. All coatings were applied within a 24 hr period to take advantage of the chemical bond.
I really feel confident that I have stemmed the rust forever if I take care of it. Masterseries is a hell of product.
Looks like you have a date with a MIG. I used metal from other VW vehicles. Sandblasting takes a whole new skill set and youโll never get all the sand out. |
Looks like Masterseries are much better products than POR15 and Rust-Oleum! Have you tried their pit filler? Thinking of using it to seal rusted through and other unwanted holes.
https://nomorerust.com/store/rust-stop-paints/13-mastercoat-extreme-rust-sealer-pit-filler.html |
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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 23777 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:41 am Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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alexbeatle wrote: |
Maybe I'm a noobie at this, but the more I brush off, the worse it looks. Or is it about the time to apply POR15?
Looking into investing into sanbluster |
And itโs still 5x worse than it looks
You are at the decision tree of either of welding new metal or POR
One could say the choice is POR or poor.
Choose POR _________________ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ |
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danfromsyr Samba Member

Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15344 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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it's 'cute' what you california guys think is 'rust'.
really frikkin cute..  |
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orwell84 Samba Member

Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 2768 Location: Plattsburgh, New York
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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When I did my cab floor, I I had to patch a small section. For the rest, I filled small holes with MiG welding and ground them down. I also added metal with welding to deeply pitted areas but it requires a light touch. I didnโt sandblast because I was sick of getting sand out of my bus. Master series will prevent the pitted areas from rusting just as well without sandblasting. |
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cmonSTART Samba Member

Joined: July 15, 2014 Posts: 1915 Location: NH
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Rusted floor. How bad is it? |
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danfromsyr wrote: |
it's 'cute' what you california guys think is 'rust'.
really frikkin cute..  |
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de K1IGS |
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