Bosch 019 in Type 4?

[aeromech]

Guys,
My customer’s 1974 bus with dual aftermarket carbs has one of those Pertronics
Electronic centrifugal advance distributors. Make in China crap I think. Today I ran the engine and checked timing. Idle is at about 7 btdc and when I rev it maxes out at about 20. I’m wondering if this Bosch 019 I have in the cupboard would be a good fit?
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[Glenn]

Try it, but i've never heard of any feedback for using a 019 or 010 in a Type 4.
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[aeromech]

There might be clearance issues
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[Glenn]

[aeromech]

I may just have to try it. Hope I don’t need to re-index the drive gear
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[old DKP driver]

Hi Gary,
I have been using the 022 905 205 S distributor for at least 8 or 9 years
Adrian did my cylinder heads back then
Web 73 camshaft
The distributor works fine and No flat spot
40 idf carbs
Vacuum hooked to both carbs

Get ahold of Bill that sells and services bosch distributors in AZ.
He has ads here:www.sparxwerks.com


Chris
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[aeromech]

I tried but it must be Bills nap time
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[Clatter]

I like a bit more initial with aftermarket carbs.. Makes a bus more peppy around town.

If you add 7 deg more timing you get your 28 all in,
You'll be at 14 initial, which is a bit much, but should run ok-ish.

Bend the stops out to get less initial. 10-12 is good.

Some China stuff works fine,
But never will if not given a real chance..
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[aeromech]

That’s what Telford said to do. My answer was if you start with crappy parts you’ll just chase your tail. The owner is fine with buying a new distributor. Of course, I’d make money by selling my 019. That’s sort of the point of this thread. What makes better sense, switching now to a nice, 019? Or trying to massage this poor quality distributor from China? Time costs the owner.
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[telford dorr]

The only way to know for sure is to find someone with a Sun distributor machine and run the thing. Now you generally won't go wrong assuming a chi-com part is junk, but maybe you could get lucky...

If the shaft fits the body well, has minimal end play, and the spark timing is steady with minimal scatter, then it might be usable with some advance range and rate tweaking. Should be able to do an initial assessment on the engine with a timing light. Even easier on an engine out of the bus (have a running spare that isn't wrapped for storage handy that you could throw on the run stand? Just a thought...)
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[Jeff Geisen]

Why wound you re-index the drive gear to go with a different distributor?
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[aeromech]

[borninabus]

you will want to flip the drive dog 180deg to get the TDC notch to line up with the rotor. i'd give it a go. should work well!
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[Glenn]

FYI.... the 019 is physically similar to the 009, both a re mechanical only.

So do you have to jump through hoops to put a 009 in? If not the 019 will drop in the same.
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[aeromech]

Thanks Glenn

Robbie, I have the correct tool for pulling the drive gear if needed.
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