strongest first gear avail

[vwinnovator]

Looking for the strongest first gear avail for the type 1 trans.

Seems to be my weakest link in my street/strip car.
snapped with a simple stage 2 pressure plate/cushloc

super beetle? weddle? any others?

how do they compare to type IV or Mendeloa?

[jsturtlebuggy]

Go with Weddle, they have many combo for 1st and 2nd gear ratios.
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[vwracerdave]

Increase rear tires 2 PSI so it don't hit as hard.
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What 1st do you have now? If it’s a 3.80, then pretty much ALL the other 1st gears are stronger. A 3.78 VW mainshaft with the type 1 large half of 1st is stronger. Then the 3.78 mainshaft with the type 2 larger half is stronger yet. Weddle’s stuff is by far stronger than the VW stuff. And the Mendeola trans is stronger than the VW ones. Another thing to consider is whatever link of the chain gets strengthened, simply creates the weak link elsewhere. What size engine, and what are you trying to accomplish at the track?

[HotStreetVw]

Weddle, FTC. Going to be spendy.

Weren't you just asking about break away torque? maybe you got to much and it broke away your mainshaft.

I've been 1.4s on a Weddle 4.13x2.46 (3.eightyeight), switched to a 091 and FTC 3.55x2.21 (4.86), now in the 1.40x 60s and getting faster.

when guys are going 8s in the 1/4 mile on type one boxes, you have to ask yourself why your breaking stuff on the street...
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[Casting Timmy]

The strongest stock combo is the 3.78 mainshaft and machining an 091 idler to mate to it. You also need to install an 091 syncrho and 091 1-2 slider, but that's the best I know of before needing to jump up to aftermarket gears.
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A friends street/strip trans with a N/A 2332 logged 300 passes with wheels up 6600rpm 1.5X 60 ft. launches on slicks with a VW 3.78 mainshaft, and type 1 large half. The car’s best e.t. was an 11.66 @ 116 weighing in at 1750lbs. The engine was never dyno’d, but estimated around 220hp with various calculators.

Those running “8’s in the 1/4” are trying to put down 650+ flywheel hp. You shouldn’t need a Rev 6 for something less than 300hp.

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[nsracing]

I have never broken anything at 5000 RPM -

Let me see...you left in 3rd gear?

The car I was helping w/ had 2443cc leaving at 7500 + RPM, 60-foot of 1.2 seconds....stock input shaft, stock 3.78 mainshaft, stock sliders...had never broken a shaft. And the clutch was multiple disks - I built the engine and trans in that car/ KSR Leroy Williams back in the day.

We upgraded the input shaft to the WEddle 300M later on.

I have seen broken input shafts and mainshafts. But 5000 RPM? are you sure the tach is working?

[Ohio Tom]

The stock (3.78/ 9 tooth) mainshaft is the strongest stock 1st gear.
Pair that with a 091 idler (2mm wider) and you have the strongest stock parts possible in a type 1 box.. Good for 1.5sec 60's. (As Geoff said)

Beyond that, going aftermarket chromoly is very strong and hard to break.