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IdahoDoug
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 Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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Zeit,
No, rational thought should not occur, lest ye awaken to the folly you are being spoon fed.
Wildthings - It's interesting how a nearby fire can do that. So much rising thermal air currents that nearby the clean air is simply being pulled toward the fire, then going up. It's points more distant as the air is cooled and comes back to the ground where the smoke can get bad. This situation has me thinking about air quality and I live in an area where concerns about that simply don't exist. The BMW has a charcoal filtration system and I coincidentally put a high end aftermarket filter in it recently. I can drive around and not smell the smoke even though its hazy in my headlamps.
One random benefit. We have a pet pregnant Preying Mantis and the last couple days it's been easy to catch flies outside as its cooler without direct sunlight, and they're slower. Brings their reaction time inside of mine!! She's getting fatter.
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Captain Pike
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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| Wildthings wrote: |
| We had fires burning nearby for a month, the closest having started 2 1/2 miles from the house and never got more than a whiff of smoke. Now the closest fire is probably 60 miles away and the air burns my skin if I go out of the house for more than a few minutes. A guy on a local blog made a post that his CO alarm was going off last night, it is supposed to alert at something like 25ppm, so people might want to be wary of their basements where the CO would tend to settle and concentrate. IIRC, a thousand PPM for an hour is deadly, but its been decades since I needed to know that so may well be way off. |
CO disperses evenly. Im a fire/burg alarm tech.
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vino de vano
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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People believe what they want to believe. Ya got a pic of your van in the smoke?
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EverettB 
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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| If you're gonna remove the "political crap", remove all of it. Selective thinning implies biased thinning. |
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Royb
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:44 am Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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Does anyone else feel like driving is actually cleaning the air when it’s this bad? No? Oh, uh, nevermind.
We spent Sunday indoors playing Monopoly to kill time as awfully as possible.
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MarkWard
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:33 am Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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| EverettB wrote: |
Moderator note:
Political crap removed per the rules |
So jokes are prohibited too? Sorry I missed that in the forum rules. 
edit: It just occurred to me the above may also have been construed as a joke.
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ALIKA T3
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:38 am Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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| MarkWard wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
Moderator note:
Political crap removed per the rules |
So jokes are prohibited too? Sorry I missed that in the forum rules.
edit: It just occurred to me the above may also have been construed as a joke. |
No it was a joke involving a politician, this is 1984 you fool! 
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4Gears4Tires
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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| Royb wrote: |
| We spent Sunday indoors playing Monopoly to kill time as awfully as possible. |
Have you tried just hitting your hand with a hammer? It's less painful than playing a game designed with the express purpose of giving everyone but 1 the slow ride to failure. https://lithub.com/the-landlords-game-eula-biss-on-the-anticapitalist-origins-of-monopoly/
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Abscate
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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I tried , but missed and put a hole in my yacht. I’ll blame the Butler and dock his pay.
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bobbyblack
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:18 am Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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Here's how the smoke looks in Iowa...
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Wildthings
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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| bobbyblack wrote: |
| Here's how the smoke looks in Iowa... |
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Microbusdeluxe
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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Early morning the other day our smoke alarm went off in the bedroom as we were sleeping. As we groggily fumbled our way around the house looking for a fire we realized that it was from the smokey air outside! Just got a third air cleaner delivered today. This is getting really old, fires in Canada got us in 2017 & 2018, now the whole West Coast is burning up this year.
Bellingham, Washington and air quality today, September 16. "Only" 107, "unhealthy for sensitive groups"; so that's progress from the readings of 172 we had last Friday.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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Please be safe, people.
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Slimvest
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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Hood Canal, Wa. On the front end of it last week smoke approaching from the south. Much worse now. Driving home over three hours yesterday, I wondered if the smoke particles made the van run hotter than normal. Dirty air = less cooling efficiency?
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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The Oly Bullis were planning a fun socially distant camping trip up to the Olympic Peninsula this week, but the air quality up there is even worse than here. Instead, we'll probably caravan out to the coast and pick up some fresh caught tuna and oysters. The wind off the ocean should keep the air quality decent.
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Slimvest
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| The Oly Bullis were planning a fun socially distant camping trip up to the Olympic Peninsula this week, but the air quality up there is even worse than here. Instead, we'll probably caravan out to the coast and pick up some fresh caught tuna and oysters. The wind off the ocean should keep the air quality decent. |
Yeah, we camped sat/sun nights on the strait and it wasn't bad. Being close to the water helped, but visibility was probably never more than a mile.
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Merian
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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| Abscate wrote: |
| Please be safe, people. |
Not possible if driving a Vanagon thru smoke.
You need a vehicle with a Recirculation button on the A/C and good sealing, at a minimum.
One reason I don't rely on my Vanagon as an "escape vehicle"
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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Along Trinity River, sept 10. |
Reminds me of Red Tuesday.....[shutter]
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:48 am Post subject: Re: Vanagons in the smoke |
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Dammity! I missed the opportunity to contribute to this thread! No pic of my Westy Shaggy in the smoke! Oh well, there’s always next year!
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