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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:05 am    Post subject: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

Bit of an odd ball one here, my car had a big Porsche engine back in the day before I owned it, i'm getting conflicting info on if the gap is factory or the result from a hack job to make the engine fit.

I'm specifically talking the wider gap at the sides not the front where the seal will go.

Interested to see others engine bays and especially tinware to cover that gap if it exists.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

unless it had a 6 cylinder it was not big. start with a Engine seal https://www.jbugs.com/product/111-705D.html
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

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Bit of an odd ball one here, my car had a big Porsche engine back in the day before I owned it

356/912 engine. If it were a 911 engine the entire back of the engine bay would of been removed.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

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trekkerglenn wrote:
Bit of an odd ball one here, my car had a big Porsche engine back in the day before I owned it

356/912 engine. If it were a 911 engine the entire back of the engine bay would of been removed.


It was, it's been put back together before I got it
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

trekkerglenn wrote:
Bit of an odd ball one here, my car had a big Porsche engine back in the day before I owned it, i'm getting conflicting info on if the gap is factory or the result from a hack job to make the engine fit.

I'm specifically talking the wider gap at the sides not the front where the seal will go.

Interested to see others engine bays and especially tinware to cover that gap if it exists.
Cheers

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Where is the engine seal??? The wall around the engine has the groove where it goes installed.....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

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Where is the engine sea??? The wall around the engine has the groove where it goes installed.....

That's the point of this topic.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
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Where is the engine sea??? The wall around the engine has the groove where it goes installed.....

That's the point of this topic.


There is no topic here.... You can see the factory groove on the car... all I see is a missing seal.... it just needs one...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

FJBLF wrote:
Glenn wrote:
FJBLF wrote:
Where is the engine sea??? The wall around the engine has the groove where it goes installed.....

That's the point of this topic.


There is no topic here.... You can see the factory groove on the car... all I see is a missing seal.... it just needs one...

This:
trekkerglenn wrote:
I'm specifically talking the wider gap at the sides not the front where the seal will go.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
FJBLF wrote:
Glenn wrote:
FJBLF wrote:
Where is the engine sea??? The wall around the engine has the groove where it goes installed.....

That's the point of this topic.


There is no topic here.... You can see the factory groove on the car... all I see is a missing seal.... it just needs one...

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trekkerglenn wrote:
I'm specifically talking the wider gap at the sides not the front where the seal will go.


Well... the car has the correct groove, I can even see the usual access cuts on it which are used to install the seal. If anything is wrong is probably the tins. Here look at this video of mine, it is not specific to the tins but you can see them in several of the shoots, it will give you the details you are looking for. You can check the other videos on my channel some of them may show more details on the tins.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
FJBLF wrote:
Glenn wrote:
FJBLF wrote:
Where is the engine sea??? The wall around the engine has the groove where it goes installed.....

That's the point of this topic.


There is no topic here.... You can see the factory groove on the car... all I see is a missing seal.... it just needs one...

This:
trekkerglenn wrote:
I'm specifically talking the wider gap at the sides not the front where the seal will go.


Here you have another one....there are several shots of the engine with the tins installed....


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
FJBLF wrote:
Glenn wrote:
FJBLF wrote:
Where is the engine sea??? The wall around the engine has the groove where it goes installed.....

That's the point of this topic.


There is no topic here.... You can see the factory groove on the car... all I see is a missing seal.... it just needs one...

This:
trekkerglenn wrote:
I'm specifically talking the wider gap at the sides not the front where the seal will go.


This one has a couple of good shots of the empty engine bay


Link

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

What year is your Trekker? Later model T181 had engine compartments that were cut larger for a fuel injected motors. They were never installed so you need the spacer plates that fill in the gaps.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

It's always been my understanding that the late Things with that elliptical hole in the engine compartment floor were set up for the late Beetle fuel injection cylinder tins. The '75 - '79 cylinder tins should not be too hard to find used.

I assume that the standard seal would be adequate because they usually need some trimming for the standard straight sided engine cutout.

Good luck, Mondshine
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

FJBLF - apologies if the point wasn't clear enough, yes I'm aware the seal isn't installed yet but as you can see from the small gap at the font of the engine/seal groove compared to the sides the seal will no way bridge that gap, hence my question.

Glenn - thanks for clarifying my point

Al Capulco & Mondshine - exactly what info I needed, mine isa 74 but this ties in with what another chap in the UK said about FI engines.
Would either of you know a part number, i've searched Google and scoured the Parts Manual on here with no luck.

Thanks all
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

essentially I need a pair of these with the curved line I guess not the flat ones in the usual 181's


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

The type 181 used spacers to make up the difference. There is a guy named Roland over in Germany that sells them.

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/vw-181...4-223-1019
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

trekkerglenn wrote:
FJBLF - apologies if the point wasn't clear enough, yes I'm aware the seal isn't installed yet but as you can see from the small gap at the font of the engine/seal groove compared to the sides the seal will no way bridge that gap, hence my question.

Glenn - thanks for clarifying my point

Al Capulco & Mondshine - exactly what info I needed, mine isa 74 but this ties in with what another chap in the UK said about FI engines.
Would either of you know a part number, i've searched Google and scoured the Parts Manual on here with no luck.

Thanks all


Mate, nothing to apologize for... Mine is a 72 and as you can see on my videos, my engine seal seams quite wide for the gap I have. The grove on your engine bay looks factory, so the only possible remaining answer, was the tins. Mystery solved. I hope you get them soon and cheap.

Best Regards and Happy Motoring.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

trekkerglenn wrote:
essentially I need a pair of these with the curved line I guess not the flat ones in the usual 181's


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So a 74 Thing with a carb engine used FI tins?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
So a 74 Thing with a carb engine used FI tins?


Not US imported 181s. I thought later 75 and up had them.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: Show my your engine bays please Reply with quote

Al Capulco wrote:
The type 181 used spacers to make up the difference. There is a guy named Roland over in Germany that sells them.

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/vw-181...4-223-1019


Al, I have no idea how you found that but WOW, that is exactly what I need, thanks so much
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