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Dann Tellez Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:09 pm Post subject: What’s this for? Emergency light on dash |
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Hi,
Since I bought my bus I noticed this light, it does not work but I would like to know what is this for? I heard that it was exclusive for ‘65 buses and that it was an optional accessory from the dealer. Does any one of you have information of this emergency light?
Thanks!
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62DoKaGuy Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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‘63-‘65, if I recall correctly. Flashes when the four-ways/hazards/emergency flashers are switched on. Is the wiring correctly set up, bulb could be burnt out, etc.
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hitest Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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Oddly, the 4-way flasher light is not described in the '65 manual. I have two '65s so of course I have those. The closest we get is a small airbrushed light above a "13" in the owner's manual- just to show it's on there, but the 13 refers you to the wiper pull switch beneath it. It is also not shown in the '64 owners manuals- nor is it described in diagrams. In '66 of course they went to a lighted (flashing) integrated pull switch. Thus, I've always assumed it to be a '65 only item. But, it was across the board as a safety feature. Not dealer installed and certainly no rarer than any '65 out there. You can verify buy removing it from the dash and you'll find a punched/painted hole. I once won a bet by identifying a '65 dash in a swap meet because of this limited feature. It may have been "progressively refined" during the '64 model year- after press time of the manuals. There, that's everything I know. About anything. _________________
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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62DoKaGuy wrote: |
‘63-‘65, if I recall correctly. Flashes when the four-ways/hazards/emergency flashers are switched on. Is the wiring correctly set up, bulb could be burnt out, etc. |
Correct.
It's not an accessory or add-on - it's stock.
General info:
The switch under it is the wiper switch - the emergency light switch is the pull knob to the right of the headlight switch.
62DoKaGuy wrote: |
What is that switch on the far left for? |
I'm interested too - That is not stock.
It sort of looks like a lighter but... Not. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Dann Tellez Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:48 am Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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EverettB wrote: |
62DoKaGuy wrote: |
‘63-‘65, if I recall correctly. Flashes when the four-ways/hazards/emergency flashers are switched on. Is the wiring correctly set up, bulb could be burnt out, etc. |
Correct.
It's not an accessory or add-on - it's stock.
General info:
The switch under it is the wiper switch - the emergency light switch is the pull knob to the right of the headlight switch.
62DoKaGuy wrote: |
What is that switch on the far left for? |
I'm interested too - That is not stock.
It sort of looks like a lighter but... Not. |
Thanks Everett,
Yes, apparently it is a lighter, the post I took the picture from explained what it was, in my case, my dash have the same hole but not the lighter, that's a shame. Any ideas how to make functional this light? |
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Clara Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:57 am Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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EverettB wrote: |
62DoKaGuy wrote: |
‘63-‘65, if I recall correctly. Flashes when the four-ways/hazards/emergency flashers are switched on. Is the wiring correctly set up, bulb could be burnt out, etc. |
Correct.
It's not an accessory or add-on - it's stock.
General info:
The switch under it is the wiper switch - the emergency light switch is the pull knob to the right of the headlight switch.
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It is an accessory. German spec buses don't have them. It is part of the US specs package. It's accessory that all US sold 65 buses have.
And for some reason the info is not in the wiring diagram.
To get it to work, first pull the switch to make the emergency flashers work. Do they?
If the flashers work, then use a test light to the wire that plugs to the bulb in that light to see if there is power to the bulb as the flashers flash. |
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Clara Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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EverettB wrote: |
I don't think of that as an "accessory" since it's stock for all N. American Buses |
Fair enough. Like steering locks are standard on euro 63-67s, so are they an accessory? Maybe to think of it as a US spec thing, like overriders on the bumpers. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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Clara wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
I don't think of that as an "accessory" since it's stock for all N. American Buses |
Fair enough. Like steering locks are standard on euro 63-67s, so are they an accessory? Maybe to think of it as a US spec thing, like overriders on the bumpers. |
Perhaps "option" might be a better description?, part of a group of things included as standard when a bus is M coded for US or Canadian delivery. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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BarryL Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? Emergency light on dash |
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My Germany delivered '65 has the warning light and flasher circuit like the new link. |
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Tizian Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2015 Posts: 381 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:57 am Post subject: Re: What’s this for? Emergency light on dash |
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To add a bit confusion:
In Germany a second indicator is mandatory when a trailer hitch is installed. It will only flash when a trailer is connected and indicates that all bulbs on the trailer are working correctly. The indicator flashes when switched to right/left and emergency... |
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tisius Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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Clara wrote: |
Like steering locks are standard on euro 63-67s |
Where did you get that idea? _________________ drive it like you just robbed the bank
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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Clara wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
I don't think of that as an "accessory" since it's stock for all N. American Buses |
Fair enough. Like steering locks are standard on euro 63-67s, so are they an accessory? Maybe to think of it as a US spec thing, like overriders on the bumpers. |
You got me there because I do think of that particular thing as an accessory.
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Lind Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Clara wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
I don't think of that as an "accessory" since it's stock for all N. American Buses |
Fair enough. Like steering locks are standard on euro 63-67s, so are they an accessory? Maybe to think of it as a US spec thing, like overriders on the bumpers. |
Perhaps "option" might be a better description?, part of a group of things included as standard when a bus is M coded for US or Canadian delivery. |
exactly.
Its just semantics, but:
Option or spec is how something is built at the factory.
Accessory is something extra that is attached to the car at any point after it is delivered.
The same item can be an option or an accessory depending on when it is put on the car. A steering lock is a great example of that. _________________ .
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Clara Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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tisius wrote: |
Clara wrote: |
Like steering locks are standard on euro 63-67s |
Where did you get that idea? |
From any euro 63-67 bus I've looked at. |
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Clara Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: What’s this for? |
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Lind wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
Clara wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
I don't think of that as an "accessory" since it's stock for all N. American Buses |
Fair enough. Like steering locks are standard on euro 63-67s, so are they an accessory? Maybe to think of it as a US spec thing, like overriders on the bumpers. |
Perhaps "option" might be a better description?, part of a group of things included as standard when a bus is M coded for US or Canadian delivery. |
exactly.
Its just semantics, but:
Option or spec is how something is built at the factory.
Accessory is something extra that is attached to the car at any point after it is delivered.
The same item can be an option or an accessory depending on when it is put on the car. A steering lock is a great example of that. |
Greg's M201 66 SC is euro spec, no port code. It did not have flashers when new, but did come with steering lock, euro lights, euro bumpers, etc. just normal 66 SC sold in Germany, only special thing was the M201.
Flashers were added at some point in the past. I was told by the PO that it was required for them to be added when the truck was brought to the US, to bring it in line with US rules.
The parts used were later than the 66 truck.
So you are saying you would describe it as having accessory flashers? optional flashers? It looks to me like it was done by a VW dealer, as they used VW parts. FWIR |
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