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Marcdeb
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 Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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If you consider the recent Cabriolet prices on BAT, I'd say the Blue 61 Vert has the potential to be at least a fair price. It would depend on details of the restoration. What a beautiful car. I'm no expert, but the body gaps appear to be very nice. The interior looks very high quality. It would be nice to see some pictures of the chassis and some pictures of the restoration of the body.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
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lonotch
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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Wayne from chasing classic cars bought both of those as a set from a client from a show awhile ago.
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Trylon
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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| lonotch wrote: |
| Wayne from chasing classic cars bought both of those as a set from a client from a show awhile ago. |
I remember that show.
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Trylon
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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He anticipated the market well on KGs.
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Braukuche
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A master turd.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2412651
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KGCoupe
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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Do you suppose that the seller realizes the "official" version of the Karmann Ghia Cabriolet wasn't even available in 1956?
...unless that one is the prototype, which would make it worth at least half of what the seller is asking for it.  |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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You would think there must be pictures of what the car looked like before the fresh primer?? That's what any buyer will want to see. Complete lack of any sort of information. ???
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2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:51 am Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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Maybe someone with knowledge of low lights can write to the seller and ask for the vin number or any extra pre primer photos. If there was no convertible for that year, then perhaps its a later body on an early pan. A vin would confirm at least the pan year, no?
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Trylon
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VeloMikey
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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| rbsurfguy wrote: |
Maybe someone with knowledge of low lights can write to the seller and ask for the vin number or any extra pre primer photos. If there was no convertible for that year, then perhaps its a later body on an early pan. A vin would confirm at least the pan year, no?
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It is a 56 front half because of the twist knobs for the heater and no fuel gage. It is a real 58-89 rear half convertible and windshield frame. It could be two things, a 56 coupe that was rear ended and converted to a 58-59 convertible or a 58-59 convertible that impacted something up front in a major way and had the 56 front end grafted in or lastly as Braukuche suggested it is a master turd. Only the VIN will tell.
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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Typical Ghia subject to a horrible “restoration” by some shop that wouldn’t know a Ghia from a Kia And based on someone’s equally horrible personal taste.
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88 E5PR1T
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:00 am Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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| John Moxon wrote: |
There's something about KGs with red wheels.
I absolutely HATE them but that's just me.  |
Ouch. Words can hurt, you know! 
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Trylon
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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Hmm, been on here for a while now, VIN comes up as a 59, but that’s obviously a 55-57 nose and the body badges look to be missing. Seller should be upfront about it.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2416347
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Karmann Gheezer
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Dan, I'm going to chime in and take up for the seller. He is a good guy. He is NOT one to mislead or take advantage of anyone. He acquired the Ghia and reason he is selling the '59 is another Ghia (56' coupe) came along that is much much nicer and he needs the space. The "Been on here a while now" is like what...two weeks?. Some ads are like 9 months.
The price reflects the condition of the car. Not like some rust buckets I've seen that some dude wants 10+ grand. Sao is not a Ghia Guru (like Loren, Ghia Girl, Rockstock, Aerosilver, Retrowagen, and John Moxon whom I will say are wonderful and very helpful people) that knows every Ghia part that started and stopped production. So maybe a quote on the "Overpriced Ghias" would have been better to say "Vin # shows '59 but the nose looks to be a 55-57". And btw, Sao has the body badge. Cheers!
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Loren
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Example of Overpriced Ghias & Ghia Parts |
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| I don't think the price is too high. I sold a 57 Ghia for $3500 two years ago that was in worse shape. It would help if the seller provided a few more pictures, especially a pic of all the parts that go with the car (laid out in the driveway is nice). I always find it helpful when the seller uploads the maximum number of photos when selling a car on the Samba, because why not, it doesn't cost any more. Might help to delete the blurry photo too. |
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