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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:29 pm Post subject: Fuel Hose? |
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So, is the hose size on our carbureted bugs 5mm ID, or 5.5 mm ID.
I’m about to do a hose campaign (it’s been a few years), and I have used German 5mm ID. However, I’ve heard that the stock size was actually 5.5 mm ID.
Belmetric sells Flennor 5.5 mm, braided Ethanol to 85% (more ethanol proof than I need, but whatever). They also sell the 5 mm. So, which should I choose?
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kpf Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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Thanks, kpf, but I was asking about the original ID (inside diameter) of the fuel hose. Your graph only shows the lengths.
I don’t want to go to 5.5mm ID if it should be 5 mm. However, I’ve seen several posts in the past that says the original fuel line was 5.5 mm ID.
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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Tim Donahoe wrote: |
Your graph only shows the lengths. |
The text for #14 says 5X2.5, that's ID and wall thickness in mm. All the lengths listed afterwards are for the same stuff but they are too lazy to repeat the same dimension for every part. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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wayne1230cars Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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This is what I used - 5 mm.
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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Bus, thanks for translating. It looks like 5mm ID. I wonder where I got that 5.5 mm drift?
And Wayne, where did you get those fuel-hose clamps? I called Wolfsburg West today, and they only have two in stock. The rest are on a back order that may, or may not, be filled in two weeks.
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Double-Double Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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Tim Donahoe wrote: |
Bus, thanks for translating. It looks like 5mm ID. I wonder where I got that 5.5 mm drift?
And Wayne, where did you get those fuel-hose clamps? I called Wolfsburg West today, and they only have two in stock. The rest are on a back order that may, or may not, be filled in two weeks.
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kpf Samba Member
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wayne1230cars Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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I tried to find those clamps at the hardware store and auto parts store. I couldn’t find a small enough clamp. I ended up ordering a kit from Amazon Prime - free shipping. It had multiple sizes including the size I needed. _________________ 1960 beetle
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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ABA stainless
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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Well, I’m a bit confused. The Belmetric 5 mm ID hose says that the hose has 10 mm OD. No problem. The German hose I’ve always used is about 10.5 mm OD. However, the AutohausAZ fuel hose clamps that Autohaus says will fit my Super Beetle, states that the clamps work on hose that is 12.5 mm to 15 mm. That is they will close only to 12.5 mm.
This leads me to believe that the Autohaus clamps won’t close enough to tighten on my 10 mm OD hose. They come in a pack of 10, and I don’t want to get all my hoses and find out I have to resort to using my old radiator clamps.
Am I missing something here? I know, I know, this is something simple, except for the fact that for years I’ve only used the old-style radiator clamps on my fuel hose. And these clamps work on a much wider, or lower, range.
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kpf Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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I agree those are too big, although the OD of the hose expands by about 1mm once the hose is on a smooth hard line. Could be more if it’s on a barbed nipple. I will check which size I used and post it in the morning. _________________ 1971 Super Beetle |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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Kpf, thank you.
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Double-Double Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:38 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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I believe Glen’s were 10mm, it says right on the clamps usually. _________________ “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.”
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Lingwendil Samba Member
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Double-Double Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:31 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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Thanks for the link I’m at this stage in my build also. _________________ “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.”
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wayne1230cars Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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Tim: I just checked the the clamp size that I used and it was marked 9-11 mm. The kit had multiple sizes including 8-10 mm and that clamp was too small.
I measured the O.D. of the Flennor hose and it is 10.5 mm. Once installed over the hard line it measures about 10.9 mm. So the 9-11 mm clamp fit well. _________________ 1960 beetle
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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Thanks, everyone.
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kpf Samba Member
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Michael Ambrozik Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Hose? |
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you can also find them at WW, There are 2 sizes order the HOSECLAMP it is for the 5mm hose. the second is for the FI high pressure hose HOSECLAMPFI. GOOD LUCK |
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