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Xevin  Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust pipe crack. |
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Discovered this yesterday on the 3/4 side
I wonder if a competent old school muffler shop can weld this
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?Waldo? Samba Member

Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 10131 Location: Where?
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust pipe crack. |
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That pipe looks seriously eroded. That crack is where the pipe looks paper thin or rusted out entirely. Likely most of the pipe is similarly thin and trying to even clean the metal enough to get a good weld would cause more holes. It might be possible to do a temporary weld on it but IMO that pipe is at the end of its useful service life. If I'm not mistaken that pipe is not connected to the heads and so it could be removed without the risk of snapping studs and needing to replace heads. _________________ I am a high-functioning autistic into VW diesels and Vanagons along with other things that are unrelated to this site. |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10357 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust pipe crack. |
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Heh - that's a candidate for an epoxy fix. You'll be amazed how long it will last. What vehicle is that on? _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1993 Toyota LandCruiser, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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Xevin  Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust pipe crack. |
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Thanks guys. I was thinking the same as both of you. Going on a road trip next week. Looking for a bandaid for the trip. I’ll do a proper replacement this Winter.
I have a lot of old school muffler shops around me _________________ Keep on Busin'
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HackAl Samba Member

Joined: March 12, 2016 Posts: 343 Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust pipe crack. |
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Was my crack not a candidate for an epoxy fix because it was too close to the block? _________________ 91 Westy.
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DanHoug Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 5918 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust pipe crack. |
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i've successfully used the "2000 Degree" iron fortified cement in a little screw top vial on thick castings but anything i've tried on the Vanagon header pipes never bonds well. there is such a large thermal expansion coupled with a quite smooth surface that it all seems to flake off. there's quite a bit of flex in the exhaust system too which further stresses a hard compound.
it's a hard location environmentally... the header is red hot just inches beyond where it bolts to the head but the head flange is relatively cool. LOTS of differential expansion. _________________ -dan
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10518 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust pipe crack. |
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"Looking for a bandaid for the trip."
No doubt the metal is thin around that crack but could that crack be brazed?
But....
Cleaning that area to shiny metal might be tough and only serve to expose pin holes or worse.
Brazing a patch over it would bump the cost up I"m sure.
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
(VW Gas I4)
1988 Westy DIY 50º ABA
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HackAl Samba Member

Joined: March 12, 2016 Posts: 343 Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust pipe crack. |
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Dan, gotcha. Makes sense. _________________ 91 Westy.
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campism Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 4711 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust pipe crack. |
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| Case in point, the last time I tried I could not locally purchase plastigauge. A staple product in engine rebuilding. |
I've been hitting the FLAPSes for various things during Dodge engine work and some places no longer sell valve lapping compound but one place had it and that's all I needed. _________________ '87 Westy in Wolfram Grey Metallic, tragically crushed by a falling hickory tree in my own driveway and now gone, leaving me Vanagonless and with no plans to replace it, alas. |
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