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kombisutra
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| Wow, I never knew they made those for 15s also! Trippy! |
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tumisoft
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Hi,
Does anyone has the exact measurements of the bracket in the first picture in the first post of this topic?
It is missing in my bus and I would like to make one myself.
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Clara
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Hi,
Does anyone has the exact measurements of the bracket in the first picture in the first post of this topic?
It is missing in my bus and I would like to make one myself.
Thanks
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I see three in the classifieds right now:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?...ton=Search
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tumisoft
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Hi Clara,
Thanks, I saw them too but I live in Belgium and I can't seem to find one here.
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Brian_1952
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I finally have a spare tire that will fit in the well behind the front seat. Now I can use the original wing nut and bracket that were in the bus when I got it. Unfortunately I dont know how the bracket is supposed to hold down the tire.
Anyone got any pics or advice?
Thanks
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Moderator notes, here is a summary:
A stud was added sometime in the 1962 model year to hold the spare tire in
Thanks for this knowledge I have one of each I was wondering why there was a difference
place behind the front seat.
A wing nut and bracket were used on the stud to fasten the wheel in place.
To the best of my knowledge, the shorter bracket was used for 15" wheels and the taller bracket for 14" wheels.
Thanks for this knowledge I have one of each one is wondering why there was a difference
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Thanks for this knowledge I have one of each and was wondering why there was a difference
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mandraks
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| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Spare tire mounting bracket |
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I finally have a spare tire that will fit in the well behind the front seat. Now I can use the original wing nut and bracket that were in the bus when I got it. Unfortunately I dont know how the bracket is supposed to hold down the tire.
Anyone got any pics or advice?
Thanks
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Moderator notes, here is a summary:
A stud was added sometime in the 1962 model year to hold the spare tire in
Thanks for this knowledge I have one of each I was wondering why there was a difference
place behind the front seat.
A wing nut and bracket were used on the stud to fasten the wheel in place.
To the best of my knowledge, the shorter bracket was used for 15" wheels and the taller bracket for 14" wheels.
Thanks for this knowledge I have one of each one is wondering why there was a difference
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Thanks for this knowledge I have one of each and was wondering why there was a difference |
the 15 inch wheel and tire is narrower, that is why the 15 inch bracket is narrower. Once the 14inch wheel came, the bracket needed to be wider. I also saw that the mounting hole is oval, possibly to accommodate both size wheels? the diameter is not the same between 6.40 15 and 7.00 14
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tumisoft
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| And the measurements of the narrow one (for 15" wheel) , anyone ? |
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easy e
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire mounting bracket |
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Old... but, oh well...
Short one (15") has a 0.5" gap, will get other measurements in a few hours.
Tall one (14") has a 0.75" gap, don't have this one to measure.
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easy e
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Here's for 15" wheel bracket...
Holes are on the same axis... just not sketched that way.
The R = 18 dimension changes from corner to corner (not consistent)... & is larger than the other corners.
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easy e
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Spare tire mounting bracket |
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T = material thickness
3.6mm = 0.1417"
Closest standard sheet metal thickness is 10 ga @ 0.1345" (9 gauge @ 0.1495")
Steel bar stock standard thicknesses... 1/8" = 0.125" & 3/16" = 0.1875"
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easy e
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regurgitating a little for clarity...
From post #1
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Moderator notes, here is a summary:
A stud was added sometime in the 1962 model year to hold the spare tire in place behind the front seat.
A wing nut and bracket were used on the stud to fasten the wheel in place.
To the best of my knowledge, the shorter bracket was used for 15" wheels and the taller bracket for 14" wheels.
The 15" bracket gap is 0.5"
The 14" bracket gap is 0.75" |
And from the 14", 15", 16" wheel FAQ thread...
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| On December 19, 1963, chassis # 1222026 (August 5, 1963, chassis # 1145427 for 1 ton models), VW went to a 14" wheel, size 14x5.00 |
So, the narrow gap bracket was fairly short lived... about two years.
Is that right?... or did pre-'62 bench seat buses use the bracket... but just didn't have the supplied stud (loose bolt)?
Or, did the pre-'62 use something different to secure the spare?... or was it just loose in the spare tire area?
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lightice
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Does anyone have dimensions for the 14" wheels?
Metal thickness and the height (both side) and width.
depth would be 3/4" gap + metal thickness x2.
Difficult to find one and would try to fabricate one from sheet metal. |
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aircool911
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Not to beat a dead horse but that foto posted from the owners manual is pretty dark. I have a 67 Doublecab .Does anyone have a pic of how the spare fits with the bracket? It’s not clear how the bracket goes. Does the wheel sit on top of the bracket? Does the long side of the bracket face out? Short side in? What does the short side do, hold the wheel? Pictures would be helpful, thanks much.
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