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goober Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2003 Posts: 1184
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:27 am Post subject: SVDA distributor |
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Has anybody had experience with this distributor?
https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D043%2D905%2D205
I can pickup a similar one up dirt cheap with a Petronix pickup. The number on it is, OP-043905205N, with no name. Reading on Samba, my H30/31 should have a vacuum port to produce adequate vacuum. I haven't checked it out.
I'm running my beloved OEM 205T's but they're getting long in the tooth, so I've been looking. I hate to spend a couple hundred times 2 cars. The mechanical advance feels smooth and no play in the shaft. Cap fits like crap.
Is it worth messing with? Thanks for any input. |
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Igpoe Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2019 Posts: 853 Location: South Boston, VA
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:59 am Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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Really? If you get what you pay for, at $39.99, I wouldnt try to leave my driveway.Use the search engine in the upper right corner of the screen. |
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joey1320 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: Cleveland, OH
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:20 am Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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You get what you pay for.
A Bosch cap and rotor alone will cost more than $40. _________________ Glenn
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13385 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:20 am Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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You be much better off sourcing a used German Bosch SVDA and restoring it vs. buying any of those Chinese clone distributors.
I've autopsied several of the Chinese distributors including the Pertronix 034 clone. Let me just say they have terrible materials, tolerances and build quality.
I sell a lot of restored German Bosch SVDA distributors to customers who admit they "gambled" on one of these Chinese clones and found (shockingly) they didn't work. They then installed the restored German Bosch distributor and their engines ran as designed again. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13843 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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I would send it out to get rebuilt recertified. You will be glad you did. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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goober Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2003 Posts: 1184
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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Thanks everyone.
Just thought I'd ask and see if anyone had something encouraging to say about them. Guess not.
You've got me scared. I'll take a pass, bring more pop bottles back and save my pennies for a good one.
No need to be messing with things that fail or won't last. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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gt1953 wrote: |
I would send it out to get rebuilt recertified. You will be glad you did. |
Send out a $40 distributor for a rebuild? It's a paperweight.. nothing will make it good.
It's a turd.. no amount of polish will make it better.
_________________ Glenn
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Starbucket Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2007 Posts: 4007 Location: WA
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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Check out aircooled.net Mallory Distributor Unilite w/vacuum advance p/n 4754101, made in usa. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11739 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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If you read Cipi1’s information on that cheap SVDA, they say it doesn’t work with an H30/31, anyway.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
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joey1320 Samba Member
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:46 am Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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joey1320 wrote: |
A good 009 distributor will work really well with the H30/31 carb, as long as the carb is in good working order. |
I disagree.
A 205T is a better match.
goober wrote: |
I'm running my beloved OEM 205T's but they're getting long in the tooth, |
Rebuilt it yourself.... the 205T is jsut about the easiest distributor to rebuild. There's only 5 moving parts and 3 of then are the drive, pin and retainer.
All you need is some brake parts cleaner, distributor grease, engine oil, steel thrust washers and a fiber washers (both available in the classified) and 2 hours of your time.
You can't mess it up. _________________ Glenn
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13385 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:57 am Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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Glenn wrote: |
joey1320 wrote: |
A good 009 distributor will work really well with the H30/31 carb, as long as the carb is in good working order. |
I disagree.
A 205T is a better match. |
I agree as well. While a German 009 will work with that carb, the 205T works off engine load, not engine RPM. So, you get better driveability. Many people report back that they also get better fuel mileage as well with the SVA distributors.
Those German engineers obviously felt vacuum advance distributors were a better fit for their engines or they would have installed the mechanical only distributors.
I ran a German 009 with an H30/31 carb. It worked fine. When I changed it to the SVA distributor, I noticed the engine responded better.
With this said, I think the German mechanical advance only 009 distributors are good in the right application like dual Kadrons or Webers. The restored versions sell at a good price point vs. the much more expensive cast iron 010's or 019's. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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goober Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2003 Posts: 1184
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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Thanks Glenn for the encouragement.
I believe my 205T takes a 07024 vacuum canister. Does anyone have any experience with this new aftermarket canister? Is it near OEM quality, fit and response?
https://www.evwparts.com/vwparts/Bug68upTune/07024.html
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10399 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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Glenn wrote: |
You get what you pay for.
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Your sig line says the exact opposite. _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
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heimlich VWNOS.com
Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 6558 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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That doesn't look to be aftermarket. You might ask before you buy to make sure. If it is Bosch than that's what you are looking for to pair with the 113 905 205 T. _________________ www.vwnos.com [email protected]
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kpf Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2017 Posts: 847 Location: California, US
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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Actually, yes. I bought that exact one that you linked to. I wanted to use it as a spare.
I used it with a Solex 34pict3, and it worked "ok." It wasn't as "lively" as my Bosch AJ, and it had considerable timing scatter. I could even feel the timing scatter in the jittery torque of the engine. In fact, I gave up playing with that distributor after the scatter grew to the point that I had no idea how to time it (do I put the case split in the middle of the scatter? or at the high side, or...?). That only took maybe 50 miles of driving.
Now that I have more experience playing with Bosch distributors, I will never buy any aftermarket distributor again. My advice is the same as has been said here already: rebuild an original instead. _________________ 1971 Super Beetle |
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goober Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2003 Posts: 1184
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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Thanks again everyone.
Kpf, heimlich thought it looked to be NOS. Did yours look to be NOS or newly manufactured? How was the overall quality and diaphragm action? Did feel unusually stiff? Rubber does deteriorate with time.
And 50 years is a long time to be sitting on a shelf, albeit, better than being in service. |
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kpf Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2017 Posts: 847 Location: California, US
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor |
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The distributor from cip1 is definitely newly manufactured. The quality looks good. _________________ 1971 Super Beetle |
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