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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:27 am    Post subject: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

Has anybody had experience with this distributor?

https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D043%2D905%2D205

I can pickup a similar one up dirt cheap with a Petronix pickup. The number on it is, OP-043905205N, with no name. Reading on Samba, my H30/31 should have a vacuum port to produce adequate vacuum. I haven't checked it out.

I'm running my beloved OEM 205T's but they're getting long in the tooth, so I've been looking. I hate to spend a couple hundred times 2 cars. The mechanical advance feels smooth and no play in the shaft. Cap fits like crap.

Is it worth messing with? Thanks for any input.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:59 am    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

Really? If you get what you pay for, at $39.99, I wouldnt try to leave my driveway.Use the search engine in the upper right corner of the screen.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&Ind...13905205AN

Those are definitely not made in Germany. Buy it as a replacement for if/when (Hopefully not) your good quality distributor takes a shit while driving and you need to get home. I have a cheapo Kultec 009 that I got for $25 brand new and it sits in a little tupperware container with a few spare parts.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

You get what you pay for.

A Bosch cap and rotor alone will cost more than $40.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

You be much better off sourcing a used German Bosch SVDA and restoring it vs. buying any of those Chinese clone distributors.

I've autopsied several of the Chinese distributors including the Pertronix 034 clone. Let me just say they have terrible materials, tolerances and build quality.

I sell a lot of restored German Bosch SVDA distributors to customers who admit they "gambled" on one of these Chinese clones and found (shockingly) they didn't work. They then installed the restored German Bosch distributor and their engines ran as designed again.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

I would send it out to get rebuilt recertified. You will be glad you did.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

Thanks everyone.

Just thought I'd ask and see if anyone had something encouraging to say about them. Guess not.

You've got me scared. I'll take a pass, bring more pop bottles back and save my pennies for a good one.

No need to be messing with things that fail or won't last.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

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I would send it out to get rebuilt recertified. You will be glad you did.

Send out a $40 distributor for a rebuild? It's a paperweight.. nothing will make it good.


It's a turd.. no amount of polish will make it better.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

Check out aircooled.net Mallory Distributor Unilite w/vacuum advance p/n 4754101, made in usa.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

Starbucket wrote:
Check out aircooled.net Mallory Distributor Unilite w/vacuum advance p/n 4754101, made in usa.


you need to read the "small" print

https://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mallory-Distributor-Unilite-with-Vacuum-Advance-p/4754101.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

If you read Cipi1’s information on that cheap SVDA, they say it doesn’t work with an H30/31, anyway.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

A good 009 distributor will work really well with the H30/31 carb, as long as the carb is in good working order.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

joey1320 wrote:
A good 009 distributor will work really well with the H30/31 carb, as long as the carb is in good working order.

I disagree.

A 205T is a better match.
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I'm running my beloved OEM 205T's but they're getting long in the tooth,

Rebuilt it yourself.... the 205T is jsut about the easiest distributor to rebuild. There's only 5 moving parts and 3 of then are the drive, pin and retainer.
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All you need is some brake parts cleaner, distributor grease, engine oil, steel thrust washers and a fiber washers (both available in the classified) and 2 hours of your time.

You can't mess it up.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
joey1320 wrote:
A good 009 distributor will work really well with the H30/31 carb, as long as the carb is in good working order.

I disagree.

A 205T is a better match.


I agree as well. While a German 009 will work with that carb, the 205T works off engine load, not engine RPM. So, you get better driveability. Many people report back that they also get better fuel mileage as well with the SVA distributors.

Those German engineers obviously felt vacuum advance distributors were a better fit for their engines or they would have installed the mechanical only distributors.

I ran a German 009 with an H30/31 carb. It worked fine. When I changed it to the SVA distributor, I noticed the engine responded better.

With this said, I think the German mechanical advance only 009 distributors are good in the right application like dual Kadrons or Webers. The restored versions sell at a good price point vs. the much more expensive cast iron 010's or 019's.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

Thanks Glenn for the encouragement.

I believe my 205T takes a 07024 vacuum canister. Does anyone have any experience with this new aftermarket canister? Is it near OEM quality, fit and response?

https://www.evwparts.com/vwparts/Bug68upTune/07024.html

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
You get what you pay for.



Your sig line says the exact opposite.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

goober wrote:
Thanks Glenn for the encouragement.

I believe my 205T takes a 07024 vacuum canister. Does anyone have any experience with this new aftermarket canister? Is it near OEM quality, fit and response?

https://www.evwparts.com/vwparts/Bug68upTune/07024.html

Thanks.


That doesn't look to be aftermarket. You might ask before you buy to make sure. If it is Bosch than that's what you are looking for to pair with the 113 905 205 T.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

goober wrote:
Has anybody had experience with this distributor?

https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D043%2D905%2D205

Actually, yes. I bought that exact one that you linked to. I wanted to use it as a spare.

I used it with a Solex 34pict3, and it worked "ok." It wasn't as "lively" as my Bosch AJ, and it had considerable timing scatter. I could even feel the timing scatter in the jittery torque of the engine. In fact, I gave up playing with that distributor after the scatter grew to the point that I had no idea how to time it (do I put the case split in the middle of the scatter? or at the high side, or...?). That only took maybe 50 miles of driving.

Now that I have more experience playing with Bosch distributors, I will never buy any aftermarket distributor again. My advice is the same as has been said here already: rebuild an original instead.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

Thanks again everyone.

Kpf, heimlich thought it looked to be NOS. Did yours look to be NOS or newly manufactured? How was the overall quality and diaphragm action? Did feel unusually stiff? Rubber does deteriorate with time.

And 50 years is a long time to be sitting on a shelf, albeit, better than being in service.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: SVDA distributor Reply with quote

The distributor from cip1 is definitely newly manufactured. The quality looks good.
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