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Cretodecristo Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2020 Posts: 56 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:07 pm Post subject: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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Today, I received my first beetle. A 1967 Sedan that I’m considering naming Betty. She needs a lot of work. This will be my first total restore. I rebuilt an engine or two back in my teen years (a few decades ago), but I never touched body work.
I wanted to post some pictures here. Hopefully, she will make it back on the road without driving me bankrupt.
Body and pan match!
It has a ‘68 engine in it. Perhaps after I get her up and running, I’ll look for a ‘67. First, I need to get her back on the road!
Her interior isn’t in horrible shape. Wonder what surprises await me.
There she is! Already know she needs new floor pans, heater channels, spare tire tray, and luggage compartment. Thankfully, the firewall is in good shape!
Now, if you will excuse me, I’m heading out to the garage. _________________ Proud owner of a ‘67 sedan daily driver! |
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anthracitedub Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2007 Posts: 3241 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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She’s crispy😳 might consider another candidate and use that one for parts. |
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Cretodecristo Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2020 Posts: 56 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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anthracitedub wrote: |
She’s crispy😳 might consider another candidate and use that one for parts. |
Crispy is a very good word! I am curious, though... why suggest she become a donor car? I realize she’s not an ideal first full restoration. Since I know how to weld (not well, but I know how) and have a TIG, I am thinking that with time and effort, she could be coaxed back onto the road.
Is my head too far into the clouds? _________________ Proud owner of a ‘67 sedan daily driver! |
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rcroane Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2013 Posts: 1996 Location: Springfield, Virginia
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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Cretodecristo wrote: |
anthracitedub wrote: |
She’s crispy😳 might consider another candidate and use that one for parts. |
Crispy is a very good word! I am curious, though... why suggest she become a donor car? I realize she’s not an ideal first full restoration. Since I know how to weld (not well, but I know how) and have a TIG, I am thinking that with time and effort, she could be coaxed back onto the road.
Is my head too far into the clouds? |
All it takes is time, talent, patience and money _________________ '65 Sunroof Bug |
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Airstream65 Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2019 Posts: 172 Location: Tulsa,Ok
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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That’s quite a project! Nothing $15 or 20k won’t fix. Looking forward to seeing the progress. |
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67ctbug Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2016 Posts: 3619 Location: CT
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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Matching body and pan, nice! Looks like a good project! _________________ '67 Beetle L41
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challomoner Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2010 Posts: 1195 Location: IRELAND
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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Surely better candidates available in Southern California? |
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rcroane Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2013 Posts: 1996 Location: Springfield, Virginia
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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baz76 wrote: |
Surely better candidates available in Southern California? |
That's a long way from South Carolina _________________ '65 Sunroof Bug |
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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rcroane wrote: |
baz76 wrote: |
Surely better candidates available in Southern California? |
That's a long way from South Carolina |
$500 transport fee to save $5,000 in rust repair. Might want to think about it.
It would make a nice pipe buggy though. |
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anthracitedub Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2007 Posts: 3241 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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Well, you mentioned total restoration. To me, I would select a better candidate. Just then sight of the rust on the drivers heater channel is a warning. It’s fixable but you’ll have a ton of hours and 2 tons of money wrapped up in it. Yes, it’s a complete and mostly original looking car, just not a good restoration candidate. Once you get into all the attention that this car is gonna need you’ll see the reality of it. I’d at least source a better body shell. |
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challomoner Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2010 Posts: 1195 Location: IRELAND
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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rcroane wrote: |
baz76 wrote: |
Surely better candidates available in Southern California? |
That's a long way from South Carolina |
should've gone to spec savers
However it's even further to Ireland yet it wouldn't stop me seeking a better car from California rather than dealing with that level of rust. |
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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Looks pretty complete! With the Steering and Turnsignal switch and all pretty nice! Too bad someone took the original oil bath Air cleaner away. I had a 67 and it's definitely a very strong nice year to get with the fully evolved single port and trans too. Maybe find one someone has the body already done on but with no extra parts for it. Either way works, What did you have in mind for the engine? _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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Cretodecristo Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2020 Posts: 56 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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Danwvw wrote: |
Looks pretty complete! With the Steering and Turnsignal switch and all pretty nice! Too bad someone took the original oil bath Air cleaner away. I had a 67 and it's definitely a very strong nice year to get with the fully evolved single port and trans too. Maybe find one someone has the body already done on but with no extra parts for it. Either way works, What did you have in mind for the engine? |
It is complete. That is why I bought it. The guy who sold it to me added the oil bath air cleaner.
Today, I removed everything in the interior. At a minimum, she needs new floor pans, heater channels, luggage shelf, and spare tire well. The bottom of the passenger side door is rusted through. I saw the need for patches in one of the rear wheel wells and along the back apron. I guess that is the price of living in swampy South Carolina! Here are pics of what I found:
So, yeah... sizing up this project, it is going to be a challenge!
As for the engine, my plan is to take it out and get it running. Because I wanted to make her a daily driver, my original plan was to work on the motor, no matter what she looked like. Besides, I have a 15 year old son who needs to learn how a motor works and how to keep it running. I have already ordered an engine gasket kit. I was a bit disappointed that it was a ‘68 engine. It also has a 30 PICT-2 carb and an aftermarket distributor without a vacuum advance. I do not know if they make a good pair yet.
On a positive note: I found an ash tray that goes in the back seat door panel! The emergency brake works! And the clutch seems to engage. I was able to put it into gear so my sons would stop moving it around the garage. Hahaha!
I’m at the point where I am ready to start separating the body from the pan. Tomorrow, I planned on welding supports to the pillars. We have an unused bed frame that will serve nicely! _________________ Proud owner of a ‘67 sedan daily driver!
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caleb0101 Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2014 Posts: 524 Location: Bristol Connecticut
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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don't let everyone here that lives where there is no rust or has the money to buy and ship a car from across the country change your mind on fixing it, my 67 was way worse than yours when i got it and fixing it was half the fun of it. you can always do what i did and just fix the structural, mechanical, and electrical stuff and leave the rest for later.
here's what my looks like now
compared to what it looked like when i got it
they are all worth fixing. _________________ Ruby red 1967 beetle sedan with a 2021cc
1967 beetle sedan baja project
April 60 euro spec ragtop beetle with a 1641cc |
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riverart Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2017 Posts: 51 Location: Pomona
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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I live in So Cal and all I can say is Betty, if that what she will be called is a beauty. If you can handle it, I say go for it! I also have 67 I call Pepe! |
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joey1320 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: Cleveland, OH
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:00 am Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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That's an insane amount of rust. I appreciate you wanting to tackle it but man, that's going to take a crazy high amount of time. Money too but money may not be relevant here. Time is the main thing.
Best of luck _________________ **1971 Super Project
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AutoMechanic Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2019 Posts: 483 Location: Roanoke Virginia
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:22 am Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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Great project find. All of them are worth fixing in my opinion. Can’t wait to see how it turns out. |
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Dibaltic Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 564 Location: Chambersburg, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:39 am Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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Nice project, looking forward to seeing the progress |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12454
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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AutoMechanic wrote: |
Great project find. All of them are worth fixing in my opinion. Can’t wait to see how it turns out. |
If this person had all the tools, a fully equipped shop and the experience it would still take hundreds of hours to repair. Never mentioned in these heroic efforts to save a car is any standards or approved methods which insures structural integrity. What they end up with is a collection of scab patches haphazardly welded together. Is it safe, is it as strong as original?
There is a standard to go by in auto body repair, it’s called ICAR, look it up. The only cars worth saving with heroic efforts such as this would be rare low production models or those with interesting provenance. So not counting the time if you value it at zero the parts alone would bust any budget. In the end you’ll have a patched together common late model VW and a story to tell. Take lots of pictures. You might get hard luck trophy at the shows. In reality you could buy several rust free cars for what it would take to save that one. Does it make any sense?
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aa390392 Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 3602 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road |
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What Zun says above........I guess Im going to say this, that car is a money pit, college fund /masters degree for your 15 year old. FIND ANOTHER CAR. _________________ .
getting grumpy & less tolerant!
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