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space Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:41 am Post subject: gas tank question |
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Has anyone replaced the stock gas tank with a different one?
I would like to get more than 240 miles between fill ups
Ive read through many past forum posts and there does not seem to be a definitive answer
I was thinking that a larger capacity tank can be used in lieu of the stock
My thoughts are:
1 The overflow tanks could be eliminated
2 A larger cap tank could be used (wouldnt need the the depression in the center)
3 Would make the fuel line arrangement cleaner and easier to replace (fill, vent, supply and return)
Any thoughts on this?
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 3582 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:26 am Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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The easiest path is to put an AUX tank in line with your existing one, don't mess with the Evap system other than to work a vent on the new AUX tank, and plumb to the stock system. Support it between the frame rails, keep it away from cables and piping. The saddle design works for the Vanagon since you can run the existing cables and etc between the tanks with that large depression in the middle. So, a similar design further back that Tees into the stock tank seems pretty easy.
There was the person who made a custom tank to fit above the Transaxle in that empty space there. I'm guess you read that post already _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
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space Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:32 am Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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jlrftype7 wrote: |
The easiest path is to put an AUX tank in line with your existing one, don't mess with the Evap system other than to work a vent on the new AUX tank, and plumb to the stock system. Support it between the frame rails, keep it away from cables and piping. The saddle design works for the Vanagon since you can run the existing cables and etc between the tanks with that large depression in the middle. So, a similar design further back that Tees into the stock tank seems pretty easy.
There was the person who made a custom tank to fit above the Transaxle in that empty space there. I'm guess you read that post already |
Thanks for the insight
I did read about the custom tank
Would prefer an off the shelf tank as I would feel more comfortable with its design and integrity
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MarkWard Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:36 am Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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There is a larger capacity fuel tank out there. It might be from the south African market. The one I saw required cutting the rear chassis brace to make room and then an alternate section for the longer tank straps you will also need.
I wasn't impressed. _________________ ☮️ |
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space Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:39 am Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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MarkWard wrote: |
There is a larger capacity fuel tank out there. It might be from the south African market. The one I saw required cutting the rear chassis brace to make room and then an alternate section for the longer tank straps you will also need.
I wasn't impressed. |
I dont think they are easy to find either
From what ive read they are +$500 as well |
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:29 am Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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MarkWard wrote: |
There is a larger capacity fuel tank out there. It might be from the south African market. The one I saw required cutting the rear chassis brace to make room and then an alternate section for the longer tank straps you will also need.
I wasn't impressed. |
What about a Racing Fuel Cell type arrangement? _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
‘84 Tin Top - Hilga....Auto |
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space Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:33 am Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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jlrftype7 wrote: |
MarkWard wrote: |
There is a larger capacity fuel tank out there. It might be from the south African market. The one I saw required cutting the rear chassis brace to make room and then an alternate section for the longer tank straps you will also need.
I wasn't impressed. |
What about a Racing Fuel Cell type arrangement? |
Ive been looking at those
That might be the best option
BTW I see ur in Chicago I'm in the sw burbs
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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space wrote: |
jlrftype7 wrote: |
MarkWard wrote: |
There is a larger capacity fuel tank out there. It might be from the south African market. The one I saw required cutting the rear chassis brace to make room and then an alternate section for the longer tank straps you will also need.
I wasn't impressed. |
What about a Racing Fuel Cell type arrangement? |
Ive been looking at those
That might be the best option
BTW I see ur in Chicago I'm in the sw burbs
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Hey, local and what not..... _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
‘84 Tin Top - Hilga....Auto |
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Russpauly Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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space wrote: |
I would like to get more than 240 miles between fill ups
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I'd like to get more that 200 between fill ups! _________________ 1988 Wolfsburg Edition - TinTop
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valvecovergasket Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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Russpauly wrote: |
space wrote: |
I would like to get more than 240 miles between fill ups
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I'd like to get more that 200 between fill ups! |
hmmm
easier than reworking the entire fuel tank location/mounting? perhaps... _________________ MegaSquirt resource - SpitfireEFI.com
gone, but not forgotten: '83 tdi westy - swap thread |
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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valvecovergasket wrote: |
Russpauly wrote: |
space wrote: |
I would like to get more than 240 miles between fill ups
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I'd like to get more that 200 between fill ups! |
hmmm
easier than reworking the entire fuel tank location/mounting? perhaps... |
HAH........ _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
‘84 Tin Top - Hilga....Auto |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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so you want off the shelf add on accessory aux tank for the vanagon.
http://www.foreignautosupply.com/parts-accessories/54-syncro-auxiliary-fuel-tank/#.X_OFjthKiUk
I don't know why they say this is 'syncro only' other than needing a little more creativity for the 2wd filler to share between 2 tanks.
but then you also want it cheap.
yeah ok buddy.,
240mi range is just fine.. stop for another coffee. and you'll need a restroom too.
I run a 9gal tank mounted on the spare tire clamshell. but that's not off the shelf
though I didn't have any other modification aside from relocating the spare tire.
wasn't it furry little otter who remade the oem tank?
and shagginwaggen has a DIY custom saddle tank..
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bobbyblack Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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SyncroJael's extra tank springs to mind.. Off the shelf? Nope.. Nice tho _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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space Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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danfromsyr wrote: |
so you want off the shelf add on accessory aux tank for the vanagon.
http://www.foreignautosupply.com/parts-accessories/54-syncro-auxiliary-fuel-tank/#.X_OFjthKiUk
I don't know why they say this is 'syncro only' other than needing a little more creativity for the 2wd filler to share between 2 tanks.
but then you also want it cheap.
yeah ok buddy.,
240mi range is just fine.. stop for another coffee. and you'll need a restroom too.
I run a 9gal tank mounted on the spare tire clamshell. but that's not off the shelf
though I didn't have any other modification aside from relocating the spare tire.
wasn't it furry little otter who remade the oem tank?
and shagginwaggen has a DIY custom saddle tank..
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Having run out of gas on 41 in the everglades where the the stations are few and FAR between would have been a nice to have a 300 mile range
Also, I would rather spend time driving than filling up every 3.5 hours
Is that tank mounted outside the frame rails?
Seems to hang pretty low as well
Do you know the dimensions?
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DuncanS Samba Member
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space Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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2wd Duncan
Thanks for the link |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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do note that to add a Syncro tank to a 2wd you will need to lower the engine & transmission by 2inches.
it's ok since you have to remove the trans to install the tank anyways.
and add in the tank mounting panel & straps
and the syncro filler. pipe & inlet box.
iirc the pipe is getting harder to come by.
get gas more often
especially when you know it's going to be a stretch till the next pump
or strap a carry can on the roof like everyone out west does. |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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adding to this conversation fwiw it's not off the shelf either. there's DIY installation requirements.
the greasecar round tank will fit in the clamshell, resting on a rubber pads and strapped to the clamshell.
https://www.greasecar.com/product-page/22-tirewell-tank-11-5-gal |
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old_man Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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I offer a cheap and simple solution. It does require that you pull over though.
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space Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: gas tank question |
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Thanks for the link Dan |
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