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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:24 pm    Post subject: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

I replaced my slave, its freezing, dont have a friend to bang on the pedal.

Any good ways to solo this?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

Raise front, gravity bleed?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

Get the front end of the Van elevated. Fill the brake fluid reservoir. Place a clear plastic hose over the bleeder screw that is dipped into a container of clean brake fluid and crack open the bleeder. If you can get the catch-container in a position close to the bleeder, then you can watch and wait for the brake fluid to fill the clear plastic hose.

Once that happens, you can step on the clutch pedal quickly, but release the pedal very slowly. Now tighten the bleeder screw and check whether the air is bled. Repeat as needed.

Another variation on this is to use a standard pressure bleeder if you have one, although I assumed from your post that you don`t have one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

I've had great success by backward bleeding. Get yourself a brand new oiler can and a piece of clear tubing to connect the cans output to the slaves bleeder. Crack the bleeder and pump fluid into the slave pushing fluid backwards and ending up in the front master cylinders' reservoir. Make room for this fluid by sucking some out to make room for the new fluid coming in by this method. Keep the oiler can flat to gravity and use the clear tube to insure your pumping perfect fluid and no air bubbles.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

Its redneck, but I used a push broom.

Pumped up the pedal, wedged the broom on the pedal and the back of the driver's seat. Then went back and opened the bleeder. Repeat a few times. Worked great, if a little awkward.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

MightyVac pump on the bleed nipple.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

DanHoug wrote:
MightyVac pump on the bleed nipple.

With a catch can installed!
https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-MVA6005-oz-Fluid-Reservoir/dp/B002YKBAXK
https://www.jbtools.com/mityvac-mva6910-4-5-oz-flu...raEALw_wcB

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

Not my idea. Connect a snug hose between the l/r wheel cylinder bleed and the clutch slave bleed. Open both valves and pump the brake pedal. This will back bleed the clutch, no fluid loss. After you feel you’ve pumped brake enough, close both bleeders and you are back in business.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
Not my idea. Connect a snug hose between the l/r wheel cylinder bleed and the clutch slave bleed. Open both valves and pump the brake pedal. This will back bleed the clutch, no fluid loss. After you feel you’ve pumped brake enough, close both bleeders and you are back in business.

That's the most eye opening shade tree/Nairobi technique I've heard in decades.
Bravo sir.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

GoEverywhere wrote:
Its redneck, but I used a push broom.

Pumped up the pedal, wedged the broom on the pedal and the back of the driver's seat. Then went back and opened the bleeder. Repeat a few times. Worked great, if a little awkward.


I second this technique, I've used it many times before.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

does the cold have effect on the fluid?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

1988M5 wrote:
DanHoug wrote:
MightyVac pump on the bleed nipple.

With a catch can installed!
https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-MVA6005-oz-Fluid-Reservoir/dp/B002YKBAXK
https://www.jbtools.com/mityvac-mva6910-4-5-oz-flu...raEALw_wcB

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I picked up a similar $15 Amazon special a few weeks ago. I really wasn't expecting much for the money, but I was sick or borrowing a professional unit from a buddy every time I needed it.
I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised. The quality was good for the price. It's easy to use, and small enough to store out of the way. I didn't need another garage item in my way that only gets used once a year. I suppose the only downfall is you have to have a compressor, but even the smallest compressor will work just fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

1988M5 wrote:
DanHoug wrote:
MightyVac pump on the bleed nipple.

With a catch can installed!
https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-MVA6005-oz-Fluid-Reservoir/dp/B002YKBAXK
https://www.jbtools.com/mityvac-mva6910-4-5-oz-flu...raEALw_wcB

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i use a wide mouth quart mason jar as i like the clear glass to look at what is coming out and being able to suck a fair bit of fluid out. used Mason lids with 2 nipples JB Welded thru. i've put full, low micron vacuum on mason jars and while not approved/suggested/safe/sane/sanctified, it's never had an issue. certainly not in the MityVac range.

i've got the O-fficial MityVac plastic jar too but it is translucent only, not clear. handy devices to have around, i use mine quite frequently.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

Hmm.. yah, i have one of these HTOMT 2 in 1 Brake Bleeder Kits.. i pumped and pumped off the clutch line at the slave and never seemed to get anything to return.

ill try the broom or the join line methods
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
Not my idea. Connect a snug hose between the l/r wheel cylinder bleed and the clutch slave bleed. Open both valves and pump the brake pedal. This will back bleed the clutch, no fluid loss. After you feel you’ve pumped brake enough, close both bleeders and you are back in business.

Awesome! Makes perfect sense, especially if you can fill that hose with fluid before final attachment.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: solo clutch bleed Reply with quote

buspor63 wrote:
GoEverywhere wrote:
Its redneck, but I used a push broom.

Pumped up the pedal, wedged the broom on the pedal and the back of the driver's seat. Then went back and opened the bleeder. Repeat a few times. Worked great, if a little awkward.


I second this technique, I've used it many times before.


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I third this technique

There's another thread called: One man clutch bleed?
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