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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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realmechanic wrote: |
Had to deflate the rears to get them on so it’s definitely a tight fit with that size tire on my 60.
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you can roll the inside of the fender, that is not visible from the outside but i may make it just a tad easier? _________________ regards
Uli
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realmechanic Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2005 Posts: 31
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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Believe me i thought about that when they didnt just slide right in. |
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AJBLAIR Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2012 Posts: 27 Location: Nor-Cal
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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I was wondering what you guys with bigger than 1600dp engines run for exhaust. What exhaust has the most ground clearance? Any input would be great, I have been checking out the A1 Sidewinder but I want to look into alternate options.
Just threw some big meats on my patina 64 SWR/BG Standard, General Grabbers 215/75/15. I am stoked. |
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zehbeh Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2008 Posts: 249 Location: Stuttgart
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:55 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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AJBLAIR wrote: |
Just threw some big meats on my patina 64 SWR/BG Standard, General Grabbers 215/75/15. I am stoked. |
Sounds like a perfect combination. Any pics of that bus would be appreciated. |
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dgsaz Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Phoenix / San Diego
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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El Guero wrote: |
Selling a set of Thunderer 195/15’s with slotted wheels. DM me for info. Thx |
Why the sale? I ask because I'm selling mine.
I've talked with some people (myself included) who think this tire is TOO stiff and too heavy for use under a bus, unless fully loaded.
I'm selling mine. I have run them now at 28 / 30 and it's still not as good as the old Hercules tires. Looking for feed back on the too stiff/ too heavy theory.
I'm thinking that SL rated tires might be the minimum (such as the Grabber ATX 205 75 15 / 1609 lbs @ 44 psi)) and the LT would be a better application in a tire like the Grabber ATX in a 215 75 15 / 1764 @ 44 psi OR the BFG AT 1765 lbs @ 50 psi. Either would be a good application.
All that said, what was it about the T Rangers you didn't like. If that was the case.
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dgsaz Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Phoenix / San Diego
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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AJBLAIR wrote: |
I was wondering what you guys with bigger than 1600dp engines run for exhaust. What exhaust has the most ground clearance? Any input would be great, I have been checking out the A1 Sidewinder but I want to look into alternate options.
Just threw some big meats on my patina 64 SWR/BG Standard, General Grabbers 215/75/15. I am stoked. |
This setup is for super slammed busses, but the design gives you max clearance:
https://store.vintagespeed.com.tw/CLASSIC-SPORT-VW...-p87513435
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dgsaz Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Phoenix / San Diego
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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SaskVW wrote: |
FunkFlex61 wrote: |
My 1960 walkthrough Kombi with a new set of BFG 215/75/15’s. Loving the change from bias plys.
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HI,
I have 215/75/R15 on my 64 Single Cab and I'm in the process of getting a new 2180 stroker. Getting some repairs done to the tranny as well and have the opportunity to change the gearing. What gearing are you running? I've got the 4.12 R&P and 0.82 4th gear. I'm considering going to a 3.88 r&P
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With that engine and the gearing in either transmissions you could be motoring at 65 -70 mph with out much effort. How do these tires handle at speed?
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Squilly Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2011 Posts: 158 Location: Steamboat Springs, CO
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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dgsaz wrote: |
SaskVW wrote: |
FunkFlex61 wrote: |
My 1960 walkthrough Kombi with a new set of BFG 215/75/15’s. Loving the change from bias plys.
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HI,
I have 215/75/R15 on my 64 Single Cab and I'm in the process of getting a new 2180 stroker. Getting some repairs done to the tranny as well and have the opportunity to change the gearing. What gearing are you running? I've got the 4.12 R&P and 0.82 4th gear. I'm considering going to a 3.88 r&P
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With that engine and the gearing in either transmissions you could be motoring at 65 -70 mph with out much effort. How do these tires handle at speed?
dgsaz |
I don't know about this exact setup, but I have a 3.44 with a .89, 2332cc with these exact tires. I can cruise at 70 and the engine is comfy and the tires feel nice and stable.
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getgeoff Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2008 Posts: 257 Location: Okanagan Center BC
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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Here is my 66
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Bendango Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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I saw this in the classifieds and the meats looked super juicy to me. The owner told me they are 215/75/15 bfg mud terrain’s that are much coveted here.
I am looking for the best performing tire with something of a tall stock look 👀. I got to thinking and would appreciate anyone’s thoughts and or experiences.
A little google throws out a 6” rim width for a 215/75 section. https://www.tyresizecalculator.com/charts/tire-width-for-a-wheel-rim-size-chart
So I assume a 4.5x15” bus wheel would reduce the handling characteristics and a 6x15” would help the tire perform better / correctly.
In short I am thinking of a 5.5” 6” or 6.5” x 15” wheel rim. Possibly stock 356 rims or (dare I say it) banded stocks.
Assuming this could be done well what do people think. Could this help keep as best a handling in corners as possible??
Yes of course we could say that this might not be noticeable with stock 60’s sloppy steering. But I am thinking of this point in isolation of any suspension & steering upgrades. I am considering all stock height handling upgrades later down the line.
I appreciate anyone’s thoughts or discussions around this brain fart. _________________ I want a real garage.
WANTED - [WTB] 55-62 Bus Thin Lip Package Tray SWR
Getting Used - SWR 60 westy copy built by vw ( apparently )
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=320866
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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i liked 5.5s on my 66. never ran 215s though. the mangels 356 style 5.5s do push the tire out a good bit. _________________ regards
Uli
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'53 3-Fold Oval, L35 Metallic Blue, looking for a narrow hatch panel |
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FandFVintage Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2021 Posts: 2 Location: Merced CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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Before and after from lowered to stock with Kumho 215/75/15 Roadventure AT51s. |
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junichi Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2005 Posts: 749 Location: brentwood bay, bc
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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Wow very cool piece of BC bus history..now in California? Looks good up high too! _________________ 1964 Kombi- http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=640048
Sold: 1985 Transporter Doka,1978 Westfalia, 1975 bay x 2, 1986 syncro vanagon, 1965 beetle, 1980 vanagon, 1967 deluxe bus, 1988 golf |
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John Ghia Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2004 Posts: 282
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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_________________ BUS BOYZ |
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duhbrr Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2010 Posts: 341 Location: SLO, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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Falken Wildpeak AT3W in 215/75r15 D load range.
Pretty tight fit even when aired down, they really hold their shape due to the D load range.
Very happy with them, I've had them on a couple other vehicles and they're just as good on the bus as any other application.
Smooth, quite, and less than the BFG KO2 option, I think just a couple bucks more than the Grabbers.
10/10 would recommend.
_________________ 1958 Dove Blue DD Panel
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We complain about people "flipping" cars on here but we have no problem hitting up Amazon or Walmart for flipping cheap foreign junk! |
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Dubbed743 Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2007 Posts: 16 Location: NV
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:09 am Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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Time for new rubber on my '65 Sundial. Currently running a mix and match set of 185R14C on my Stock 14" wheels, but as far as I can tell my only choices to continue using the 14" wheels are:
- Hankook Vantra LT in 185R14
- Kumho Solus TA11 in 195/70/14
- Hankook Kinergy ST in 195/70/14
Unfortunately none of these look knobby enough to give me confidence in snow, so now considering purchasing a set of aftermarket rims to get me better tire selection. Not looking to dramatically deviate from ~800 tire rev/mile, as my 1776 /w Freeway Flyer provides a nice mix of acceleration and top speed for my driving style.
Last time I looked circa 2010, only aftermarket wheel options were cheap EMPIs, so hopefully there are now some other options out there. Cost not a factor.
Pic for views, and TIA!
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junichi Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2005 Posts: 749 Location: brentwood bay, bc
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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Dubbed743 - are the Grabbers NLA in 14"? They're awesome. _________________ 1964 Kombi- http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=640048
Sold: 1985 Transporter Doka,1978 Westfalia, 1975 bay x 2, 1986 syncro vanagon, 1965 beetle, 1980 vanagon, 1967 deluxe bus, 1988 golf |
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Dubbed743 Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2007 Posts: 16 Location: NV
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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junichi wrote: |
Dubbed743 - are the Grabbers NLA in 14"? They're awesome. |
I see these: GRABBER A/TX - SIZE: 27X8.5R14LT
But they seem way too wide for a stock 14"x5" bus rim?
DescriptionSizesSpecsWarranty
Specs for Selected Tire
SIZE UTQG MAX.
LOAD MAX. INFLATION PRESSURE TREAD DEPTH TIRE WEIGHT RIM WIDTH RANGE MEAS. RIM WIDTH SECT. WIDTH TREAD WIDTH OVERALL DIAM. REVS. PER MILE COUNTRY OF
ORIGIN*
27X8.5R14LT
95Q C
None 1,521 lbs 50 psi 16/32" 29 lbs 6-7.5" 7" 8.6" 26.9" 772 US
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20278 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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Said it many times in other threads, and probably here too.
Cooper Starfire SF510 in 27x8.5R14LT on my single cab. Yes, it's a baywindow, but they fit split buses perfectly. Good treadwear, good traction, strong sidewalls, and quiet on the highway.
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20278 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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FandFVintage wrote: |
Before and after from lowered to stock with Kumho 215/75/15 Roadventure AT51s. |
Man, that bus looks great both ways! Well done. _________________ nothing |
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