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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Oof i think i leave my underseal in place Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

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Oof i think i leave my underseal in place Wink


Good call Harry. It has given really pretty good protection where itís solid, but there are some parts where itís lifting off in sheets and they are rusty underneath. Worth bearing in mind if you inspect under the bus.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

That looks great.

I think you could just paint POR15 directly on top of that and it would be fine.

Will look great when you've done it. Planning to do similar on my Bay window but might wait for some warmer weather!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

78 Westy purchased in Canada 15 yrs ago. It was Zebart type rust proofed apparently since new.
Once per year put it on my lift and scrape off the flaking undercoat which shows clean painted metal underneath. Wash with lacquer thinner, let dry and spray with 3M rubberized undercoating from spray can.
Works well for me, but do it once per year or water will get between flaking undercoat & body metal causing rust.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

I would highly suggest looking at masterseries silver paint as your first coat. I've tried all the rust paint's and it is by far the best. 100x better than por15.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Iím making good progress removing the old underseal. I figure Iím best while Iím at it taking off as much as possible and itíll get cleaned and re-undersealed at the very least.
This clip shows the pneumatic needle descaler in action. It just a quick first pass, but you can see how well it deals with the seal and leaves the paint. The volume is a bit variable because the tool is so loud!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Random progress photo while I was under there this afternoon!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Nice work Phil, that is a great tool wich makes it a lot easier than scraping by hand!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

It so happened that I got another clip of the pneumatic descaler in action again (just in case anyone is considering buying one!)
This is the top of the rear wheel arch. You can see the surface rust that is hidden beneath the underseal. Not too bad.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Sadly, almost as I was on the last section of the whole underneath, I discovered the only really serious section of rusted metal. I guess it is a water trap between the two skins of metal, at the upper edge of the outer wheel arch.
Iíll cut out the damage, but Iím not sure what to do from here. It might be I could get a mobile welding service to weld a patch, or I could complete the underseal project and separately take the bus to a body shop some time next year. There is a restoration guy I have used before a couple of hours away, but we are in lockdown just now still, so itís pretty academic!

You can see the rest of the under wheel arch is pretty solid once the old underseal is off.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Looks great. Nice to see nothing lurking underneath.

I'm going to do similar on mine in the spring. I'm so bored with lockdown this actually seems like fun.

I think I'll just leave mine painted and not underseal it. Currently my underseal is so flakey that it just holds moisture.

If I just paint it then once a year I'll just jetwash the underside, then take a look and touch up as required.

Did you look at electric needle de-scalers? I don't have a compressor. Maybe time to get one.

Cheers, Jake
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

That doesn't look too bad. Do you see any bubbling on the other side of those holes?

I could be wrong but I think the only way water can get to that point is down from a leaking side window seal.

Looks good otherwise. Congrats on all that work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Sorry in my last reply I hadn't seen those last photos. I think if that's the worst bit then you have done alright really. How many hours in total do you think it took with the descaler?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Howís your weather in Bonnie Scotland? I think we have you in the snow department..... Laughing

First part of my projects will be finding them.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

jaket3 wrote:
Sorry in my last reply I hadn't seen those last photos. I think if that's the worst bit then you have done alright really. How many hours in total do you think it took with the descaler?


Yeah Jake. Iím not too distressed. Itís lucky thatís the worst.
I reckon about 10hours max with the descaler has done this first pass. Iím expecting the same again to wire brush and clean up before any rust treatment or primer. The descaler is moderately hard work so I did it in sessions of 1-2hrs (which was about my limit on the freezing garage floor anyway!)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Oh man... I recently finished removing the undercoating on my 78. I wish mine was as easy as that. Mine was all gooey which required scraping it off.

"pneumatic needle descaler" when I was in the Navy... we called them "needle guns"

P.S. Not sure if you did that descaling with your wife present, but mine almost killed me after using mine. It is so loud and she was working from home and it was driving her nuts. She couldn't wait to get back to work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

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Howís your weather in Bonnie Scotland? I think we have you in the snow department..... Laughing

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Thatís gorgeous! We almost never get lying snow as weíre on the coast but it was -6degC when I played golf on Sunday. The ball was bouncing like a kids rubber ball. Challenging!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Damn Sad

Have you thought about contacting someone like FBI VW see if they have a wheelarch tub cut off any buses they have broke?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Most of the work is not interesting enough to take pictures of, but an hour a day every now and again is having an effect!
You can see the general state of the main underbody here, the old underseal did a pretty good job...


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Let's Go! Scotland-Croatia and onwards in our Kombi!' Reply with quote

Slight change of subject. Weíve had a spell of freezing weather, and an eBay package of goodness arrived, so I investigated that.
On the advice of Samba member 1970fun, from the Netherlands I have purchased a Chinese made 2kw, aluminium bodied diesel heater. They can be bought incredibly cheaply, this was £125, and I was keen to get a good heating system into the Kombi for camping in the spring.
The heater comes pretty complete, but some things will need to be replaced or upgraded:
The 10 litre diesel tank is too large, I will go for 5-7 litre
The heater itself is good and pretty well put together. The aluminium casing seems robust. The fan spins very freely, which can be an issue. The fittings like fuel line clamps are better than basic quality.
I will upgrade the air inlet filter, the exhaust hosing and the fuel filter, maybe add a quick disconnect, so I can take the tank out to refill, and a priming bulb as these are much better manually primed to save wear on the pump.
I will use a full turret plate to pass the inlet and exhaust pipes through the floor of the bus.
The heater body fits snugly in the locker under the sink, and I think I will run the outlets under the rock and roll bed.
Anyway, pics...


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