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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

4Gears4Tires wrote:
The good news is that he only needs to add a metric dowel to hold EU paper towels.


Very Happy

Iíve heard there is a Bounty on catching US configured paper towels
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

Abscate wrote:
4Gears4Tires wrote:
The good news is that he only needs to add a metric dowel to hold EU paper towels.


Very Happy

Iíve heard there is a Bounty on catching US configured paper towels


Viva la difference
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

I like that idea regarding the placement of your fan remote. I think you'll find that you want to have it handy up front when driving. Sometimes you get stuck in traffic and it's nice to be able to whoosh in some air.

We lost the remote, buried somewhere under camping gear, on a trip last summer. It was extremely frustrating.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

joetiger wrote:
I like that idea regarding the placement of your fan remote. I think you'll find that you want to have it handy up front when driving. Sometimes you get stuck in traffic and it's nice to be able to whoosh in some air.


Excellent point. I can put it on the B pillar right behind my head while driving. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

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I like that idea regarding the placement of your fan remote. I think you'll find that you want to have it handy up front when driving. Sometimes you get stuck in traffic and it's nice to be able to whoosh in some air.


Excellent point. I can put it on the B pillar right behind my head while driving. Thanks.
Or the dash! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

I added remote power door locks and a kill switch relay system.

This bus originally had power door locks but the wiring as usual was flaky and I did not want to rely on it to work well, and I also wanted to add the remote kill switch option. I opted for this aftermarket system based on feedback on other samba topics.

https://www.a1electric.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?...=W02F-712T

https://www.a1electric.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?...gory_Code=

The system appears very well made and complete.

Because the front doors already had power locks they were ready to accept the new power lock units. I was very pleasantly surprised to find that the new units had the exact same mounting hole dimensions and unit size as the original one. It was literally a matter of removing two screws to swap the units. Then use the new wiring harness for the connections. Very Happy


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I was able to use the original harness grommet into the door but had to make a new hole and add a grommet to get the new harness thru the hole into the cab. If the fuse panel and wiring was not so crowded I might have been able to feed it along the original harness.


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The sliding door had been replaced by myself earlier with a door that happened to not have had power locks. As a result it did not have the power pick up or the mount and rod for the power door system. I was able to swap in the parts from the previous door (which had power locks but was damaged) and craft a mount for the door lock actuator so it came out the same as the original configuration. I used a dremel cut off to create the needed slot for the power pick up piece.


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The remote comes with a relay designed to be put in line with the starter solenoid wire (red/black) from the ignition switch. When the remote is used to lock the doors the relay will cut power to the solenoid wire and the starter will not work. If the doors are unlocked with the remote the relay is disabled and the starter will work. If the doors are operated manually the relay holds the last position from the remote. (There is a manual over ride switch hidden if necessary if the system craps out.)

Now I can walk away from the bus and use the remote to lock the doors (I did not include the rear hatch) and the bus has the kill switch armed. I am very happy with this system.

$32,045
$155 Power door locks with kill switch
$32,200
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

I just completed the installation of a power radio antenna.

Documented here.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9561372#9561372

Love it!

$32,200
$100 power antenna
$32,300
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

The past couple weeks I have been working on the door front panels, new speakers, and a new radio.

The door panels are water damaged but the vinyl material is basically in good shape.


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I fully soaked the backing fiberboard, placed many layers of newspapers on the garage floor (to absorb the water during compression), jacked up the front wheel, set the door panel onto the floor with a board under the wheel and let down the tire. That should be about 1000 pounds on the door panel.

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I let it sit for a few days to take on a less wavy shape.

I removed the first one and did the other door panel the same way.

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After allowing the panels to dry inside the house for a week it was time to install the new speakers.

These seem to work fine for me and they fit the stock location.

Rockford Fosgate P132 Punch 3.50" 2-Way Full Range Speaker (Pair)

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001P86SP2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use the cover from the original speakers by cutting it off with a dremel cut off wheel.

New speaker next to original.

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Cut off the cover.

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Now you can mount the new speaker from the back of the door panel and the cover from the front.

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And done!

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I ran new speaker wires using this wire.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B085BC7VNK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The size is overkill but it is a very fine stranded wire with a supple silicone like cover so I think it will hold up to the bending cycles in the doors, at least I hope so.

I added new vapor barrier plastic to the front doors.

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Installed the freshly cleaned door panels.

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Looking much better!

Then I installed this radio.

VDO 12V Radio USB MP3 WMA Bluetooth

(I got the blue version, they have one in orange but I did not like that display color.)

https://www.raneystruckparts.com/vdo-12v-radio-usb-mp3-wma-bluetooth/

This unit was recommended by Hans for me since it is also for the European bands. And I definitely wanted bluetooth.

Another nice feature of this type of unit is that it has no CD or media deck so the unit is only about 1/2 the depth of the stock radio. That leaves plenty of room for the wiring and other stuff back in the dash... Cool

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All is working nicely.

$32,300
$85 speakers
$15 speaker wire
$175 radio

$32,575
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

How did you do the speaker cups in the vapor barrier or where did you source a vapor barrier to suit the Vanagon door?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

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How did you do the speaker cups in the vapor barrier or where did you source a vapor barrier to suit the Vanagon door?


I used 1 mil painters plastic because that it what I had in the house. 4 mil would have been more durable but I had none on hand.

For the speaker cups I used a quart ziploc bag with the zip portion cut off. Double sided tape to attach the vapor barrier to the door and the speaker bag to the hole I made in the barrier for the speaker.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

Looks like the only thing left to do is drive it into a shipping container!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

joetiger wrote:
Looks like the only thing left to do is drive it into a shipping container!


Hah! I wish. Laughing

There are still a bunch of niggling details to take care of but it is really getting there!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

Is it going to fit in a container or will it be surface shipped? (forgive me for probably not using correct terminology here)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

joetiger wrote:
Is it going to fit in a container or will it be surface shipped? (forgive me for probably not using correct terminology here)


I intend on RORO (roll on roll off) vs container. The high top is too tall for a standard shipping container.\ anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

Good stuff all around. Where'd you get the Rhein/KO2 combo? They look awfully familiar.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

owokie wrote:
Good stuff all around. Where'd you get the Rhein/KO2 combo? They look awfully familiar.


I've wanted beefier tires for a long time. Decided to pull the trigger on the KO2s in the beginning of 2020 in prep for Baja. Very Happy (I've had the rheins for a decade.)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

Where is the power pod discussed or purchased?

Ideally I would like a replacement lid for the ash tray aka coin and gas cap key holder.
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Where is the power pod discussed or purchased?

Ideally I would like a replacement lid for the ash tray aka coin and gas cap key holder.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

r39o wrote:
Where is the power pod discussed or purchased?

Ideally I would like a replacement lid for the ash tray aka coin and gas cap key holder.
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Good catch. I havenít gotten caught up on posting about the 12V power everywhere.

That version comes from uniWerks.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Building a bus for travel in Europe "euroBus" Reply with quote

I added storage netting to some windows.

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The netting is from here.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B015KN65UK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It comes with a bunch of attachment options. I find that using the available Vanagon posts and adding a point or two did just fine.

I have used this type of netting on our '87 Westy for a decade and it is awesome for things like chip bags, paper towel roll, tissues, grocery bags, towels, clothes, whatever the heck you want to shove in there.

$32,575,
$40 for 3 nets
$32,615
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