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desi2960 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2010 Posts: 49 Location: missouri
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:38 am Post subject: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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To the right of the aluminum v.i.n. tag under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen there is a oval shape plate riveted on with a 7 digit number.
What do the numbers represent? |
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Pepperbilly Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2017 Posts: 977 Location: Seattle, Wa
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: Im asking, cause i dont know |
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Do you mean this? Mine actually has 9 digits. 1973 wagon for USA. I don’t know either but I am sure someone knows.
Bill
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Hawker Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2012 Posts: 124
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Im asking, cause i dont know |
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Hello,
The answer is on another thread, but hidden away. It’s the 5 day and 37th week of 71 production.
BR,
Rob |
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desi2960 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2010 Posts: 49 Location: missouri
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Im asking, cause i dont know |
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Where yours has the 71 crossway on the tag mine has an x4x4.
Also found out mine was made on the 3rd week 4th day.
Once again i thank thesamba and its members for the help. |
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Lars S Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2007 Posts: 785 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:41 am Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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Found this on another site...intresting that the crossway no is the factory paint code.
My 73 412 has a 71 code, same as Pepperbillys above and both are Mayametallic.
/Lars S
_________________ Porsche 914 -72, Bahia Red daily driver
VW411 2-d -70, White, sold
VW412 4-d, -73, Gold Metallic, daily driver
Suzuki T500, -69, Candy Gold, sold
Suzuki K50, -77, Black, daily driver
BMW R69S -69, White, sold
Husqvarna 118cc, -47, Black, Sold |
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Abelclasico Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2017 Posts: 152 Location: Carrboro, NC
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Pepperbilly Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2017 Posts: 977 Location: Seattle, Wa
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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Hawker mentioned that the crossways 71 could be the prduction year. Had a hard time believing that because my 412 is a ‘73 model. Lars explanation of the paint code makes perfect sense... we both have Maya metallic cars.
Bill |
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Hawker Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2012 Posts: 124
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:14 am Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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Sorry Gents,
My bad! The two numbers at 90 degrees is the brochure paint code not the year. I must pay more attention when replying.
BR,
Rob
Last edited by Hawker on Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:43 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Pepperbilly Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2017 Posts: 977 Location: Seattle, Wa
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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Still want to understand that crossways paint code number. Maya Gold metallic is paint code L98A as far as I know. Where does the 71 on my tag come from? Lars has the same color 412 as me and our numbers are the same. Must be some sort of factory production number?
Bill |
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Lars S Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2007 Posts: 785 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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Pepperbilly wrote: |
Still want to understand that crossways paint code number. Maya Gold metallic is paint code L98A as far as I know. Where does the 71 on my tag come from? Lars has the same color 412 as me and our numbers are the same. Must be some sort of factory production number?
Bill |
Think I found what you are looking for Bill (in fact I was wondering the same as you)
Lars S
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...U2JsgymBHp _________________ Porsche 914 -72, Bahia Red daily driver
VW411 2-d -70, White, sold
VW412 4-d, -73, Gold Metallic, daily driver
Suzuki T500, -69, Candy Gold, sold
Suzuki K50, -77, Black, daily driver
BMW R69S -69, White, sold
Husqvarna 118cc, -47, Black, Sold |
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Lars S Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2007 Posts: 785 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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In the factory production specification (which I happen to have for my 412 ) one can at the very top read "FARBE (color) 717145" so the "71" which my car has as a crossway no on the small plate comes again in this paper.
The color on my car is Mayametallic which is color code L98A but I assume that code was never used at the factory; they used the number 71 instead.
All colors codes should have a matching internal factory no.
/Lars S
_________________ Porsche 914 -72, Bahia Red daily driver
VW411 2-d -70, White, sold
VW412 4-d, -73, Gold Metallic, daily driver
Suzuki T500, -69, Candy Gold, sold
Suzuki K50, -77, Black, daily driver
BMW R69S -69, White, sold
Husqvarna 118cc, -47, Black, Sold |
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Pepperbilly Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2017 Posts: 977 Location: Seattle, Wa
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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LarsS,
Wow! What great information you have supplied. That clears up this mystery. How the heck were you able to get that factory spec sheet? I have never seen one of those.
Thanks again,
Bill |
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Lars S Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2007 Posts: 785 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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Pepperbilly wrote: |
LarsS,
Wow! What great information you have supplied. That clears up this mystery. How the heck were you able to get that factory spec sheet? I have never seen one of those.
Thanks again,
Bill |
Bill, it was very easy to get the spec, I just looked under the back seat of my 412 and there it was tucked between the seat springs .
However I have never heard of anyone else having found it...
Just happy to share the info!
/Lars S _________________ Porsche 914 -72, Bahia Red daily driver
VW411 2-d -70, White, sold
VW412 4-d, -73, Gold Metallic, daily driver
Suzuki T500, -69, Candy Gold, sold
Suzuki K50, -77, Black, daily driver
BMW R69S -69, White, sold
Husqvarna 118cc, -47, Black, Sold |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21519 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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I have never had the back seat back out on mine. Its something I have been meaning to do and check for that document.
On the other hand.....I might have that,document anyway. I have vortually every document generated on my car back to the assembly line print out in a box.
I can also post the standard color and upholstery combinations list from the parts book. Ray |
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Lars S Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2007 Posts: 785 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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raygreenwood wrote: |
I have never had the back seat back out on mine. Its something I have been meaning to do and check for that document.
..... Ray |
I dont remember if I found it under the back seat or if it was on the back of the backrest of the backseat...it was properly tucked there as if this was a place where it should be left.
/Lars S _________________ Porsche 914 -72, Bahia Red daily driver
VW411 2-d -70, White, sold
VW412 4-d, -73, Gold Metallic, daily driver
Suzuki T500, -69, Candy Gold, sold
Suzuki K50, -77, Black, daily driver
BMW R69S -69, White, sold
Husqvarna 118cc, -47, Black, Sold |
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Hawker Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2012 Posts: 124
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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Gents,
The factory specification sheets I have found on VW’s were always under the rear seat taped to the springs. Dot matrix print on continuous computer paper with perforated sheets. Memories indeed!
BR,
Rob |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34013 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Oval shaped plate under the front hood of my 412 stationwagen |
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Back when you found untouched original cars, I used to find stuff under the seat, too, either in the well, or more often tucked into the springs. Some were tags relating to the seats themselves, some were Hollerith punch cards with some part info on it, some were unknown inspection tags. Hard to find that stuff anymore! |
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