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Littleeagle28 Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2017 Posts: 171 Location: U.K. lincs
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:03 am Post subject: Carb bolts |
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1974 1303 carb h30/31
Anyone got a good tip or tool to remove and install the nasty bolt at the hard to reach bolt at the carb base to the engine? ( nearest one to firewall). _________________ 1974 1303 |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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Go to your local pawn shop scout out a 13mm wrench. Take it home heat it up and bend it. That is what I had to do. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8700 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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Get a bent 13mm like the one in the center of this photo. I bought this one at a VW shop, but you can also heat and bend an old wrench.
These guys have it. https://www.bughaus.com/tools.htm
_________________ Brian
'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
'70 Beetle
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mondshine Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2006 Posts: 2770 Location: The World's Motor Capital
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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I use a GearWrench 13mm Stubby for that (and lots of other fasteners).
The short pattern might even prevent you from over tightening those nuts and yanking the studs right out of the carb body.
It is a very useful tool, and you can't have too many tools. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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mondshine wrote: |
I use a GearWrench 13mm Stubby for that (and lots of other fasteners).
It is a very useful tool, and you can't have too many tools. |
I like it. I have a stubby combination wrench set from HF, but somehow lost my 13mm size. I bought a very cheap 13mm combination wrench somewhere and hacksawed it shorter.
I've also ground the heads narrower on cheap 11mm, 12mm, and 13mm wrenches for more clearance. I use 11mm for my brass exhaust nuts, and 12mm for JIS nuts and on my Mazda and Frontier trucks. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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sgmalt46 Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: south san francisco
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:19 am Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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my favorite is the L-hazet. _________________ 55 deluxe 23 window bus
64 crew cab
55 rag top beetle
66 beetle
71 square back (sold) ! good luck with it Henry!
46 beetle 552nd royal army service corps CCG |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26324 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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I've never needed nor used a "bent" wrench for this. Really, just a normal combination wrench is all I've ever used, (and I've changed out a rather large amount of carburetors over the years) I even prefer it to a GearWrench, because those have a thicker footprint. Also, as long as the threads aren't all filthy, the wrench is only needed for the final turn or so to or from tight, otherwise, they can be spun by hand.
And I said nut. These are NUTS, not bolts.
_________________ Andy T.
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getsdown Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2011 Posts: 8 Location: ashland or
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:12 am Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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take your distributor cap off and use a regular wrench. |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12468
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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I’d have to lean towards using those tools which I know make the job easier. To be fair you probably can get away with using ordinary combination wrench on the early VWs but it’s way more cramped on 1600s and dual ports worse.
Not mentioned yet but these purpose built wrench’s also are a great thing to have when doing muffler and heater box R and R. People also don’t think about using 1/4 drive tools to get in these tight places. Make the small investment in a proper tools you won’t regret it. The Sears craftsman wrench in the pic were all purchased for a dollar or less and we bent them using a torch. so why not have one or two? How often do you see people struggling to get things done and when shown the tooling suddenly it all makes sense.
This is a gear wrench with twisted handle. Gets into tight spots, gives more leverage because your hand gets a broader area to apply force. It could be modified like the others. Take the Pepsi challenge try it using a regular straight wrench then try it using the bent wrench then decide how often you’ll use it and is it worth a dollar. 😀
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Matt Wilson Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2005 Posts: 2408 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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Remove that front nut first, so that the rear one stays tight. If the threads are in good shape, you can just spin it off. If you do the rear one first, you'll wrestle the front nut unnecessarily longer with a wrench. I've always just popped off the distributor cap and easily gotten in there with regular wrench.
Some wrench brands are indeed chunkier, so finding a slimmer or "S"-shaped one may be even easier. |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26324 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
I’d have to lean towards using those tools which I know make the job easier. To be fair you probably can get away with using ordinary combination wrench on the early VWs but it’s way more cramped on 1600s and dual ports worse.
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Oh, I dunno. I've never had a problem with a normal combo wrench on the 1600DP manifold on my Baja bug. Yeah, the distributor cap needs to be out of the way, but heck, I just grabbed a fairly hefty 6-point Craftsman combination 13mm wrench and threw it on the front nut on my Baja and it's fine. (I'd rather have a 12-point but that was the first 13mm combo in my toolbox)
_________________ Andy T.
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AutoMechanic Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2019 Posts: 483 Location: Roanoke Virginia
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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I used a 1/4 drive universal joint and a 1/4 drive 13mm problem solved surprised no one suggested that yet. I don’t modify tools if I don’t have too it bothers me having something imperfect in my box. |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12468
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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Once upon a time I had access to a machine shop with heat treating and plating capabilities. You would be amazed at the custom and one off tools we could make. Snap On and the others will pay you if you have an idea for a tool and they can market that idea. Don’t hesitate to modify, it makes life easier for everyone. |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Carb bolts |
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... and if still stock on 1960 and earlier vehicles it's a 14mm wrench that's needed. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse |
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