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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:03 am    Post subject: Carb bolts Reply with quote

1974 1303 carb h30/31

Anyone got a good tip or tool to remove and install the nasty bolt at the hard to reach bolt at the carb base to the engine? ( nearest one to firewall).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

Go to your local pawn shop scout out a 13mm wrench. Take it home heat it up and bend it. That is what I had to do.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

Get a set of S-shaped box wrenches or C-shaped. The factory nut there (not bolt, there are two downward pointing studs on the carburetor) takes a 13mm wrench (12mm if someone used JIS/Japanese nut).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

Get a bent 13mm like the one in the center of this photo. I bought this one at a VW shop, but you can also heat and bend an old wrench.
These guys have it. https://www.bughaus.com/tools.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

I use a GearWrench 13mm Stubby for that (and lots of other fasteners).
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The short pattern might even prevent you from over tightening those nuts and yanking the studs right out of the carb body.

It is a very useful tool, and you can't have too many tools.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

mondshine wrote:
I use a GearWrench 13mm Stubby for that (and lots of other fasteners).

It is a very useful tool, and you can't have too many tools.


I like it. I have a stubby combination wrench set from HF, but somehow lost my 13mm size. I bought a very cheap 13mm combination wrench somewhere and hacksawed it shorter.

I've also ground the heads narrower on cheap 11mm, 12mm, and 13mm wrenches for more clearance. I use 11mm for my brass exhaust nuts, and 12mm for JIS nuts and on my Mazda and Frontier trucks.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

I've never needed nor used a "bent" wrench for this. Really, just a normal combination wrench is all I've ever used, (and I've changed out a rather large amount of carburetors over the years) I even prefer it to a GearWrench, because those have a thicker footprint. Also, as long as the threads aren't all filthy, the wrench is only needed for the final turn or so to or from tight, otherwise, they can be spun by hand.

And I said nut. These are NUTS, not bolts.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

take your distributor cap off and use a regular wrench.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

I’d have to lean towards using those tools which I know make the job easier. To be fair you probably can get away with using ordinary combination wrench on the early VWs but it’s way more cramped on 1600s and dual ports worse.

Not mentioned yet but these purpose built wrench’s also are a great thing to have when doing muffler and heater box R and R. People also don’t think about using 1/4 drive tools to get in these tight places. Make the small investment in a proper tools you won’t regret it. The Sears craftsman wrench in the pic were all purchased for a dollar or less and we bent them using a torch. so why not have one or two? How often do you see people struggling to get things done and when shown the tooling suddenly it all makes sense.


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This is a gear wrench with twisted handle. Gets into tight spots, gives more leverage because your hand gets a broader area to apply force. It could be modified like the others. Take the Pepsi challenge try it using a regular straight wrench then try it using the bent wrench then decide how often you’ll use it and is it worth a dollar. 😀


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

Remove that front nut first, so that the rear one stays tight. If the threads are in good shape, you can just spin it off. If you do the rear one first, you'll wrestle the front nut unnecessarily longer with a wrench. I've always just popped off the distributor cap and easily gotten in there with regular wrench.

Some wrench brands are indeed chunkier, so finding a slimmer or "S"-shaped one may be even easier.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

Zundfolge1432 wrote:
I’d have to lean towards using those tools which I know make the job easier. To be fair you probably can get away with using ordinary combination wrench on the early VWs but it’s way more cramped on 1600s and dual ports worse.


Oh, I dunno. I've never had a problem with a normal combo wrench on the 1600DP manifold on my Baja bug. Yeah, the distributor cap needs to be out of the way, but heck, I just grabbed a fairly hefty 6-point Craftsman combination 13mm wrench and threw it on the front nut on my Baja and it's fine. (I'd rather have a 12-point but that was the first 13mm combo in my toolbox)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

I used a 1/4 drive universal joint and a 1/4 drive 13mm problem solved surprised no one suggested that yet. I don’t modify tools if I don’t have too it bothers me having something imperfect in my box. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

Once upon a time I had access to a machine shop with heat treating and plating capabilities. You would be amazed at the custom and one off tools we could make. Snap On and the others will pay you if you have an idea for a tool and they can market that idea. Don’t hesitate to modify, it makes life easier for everyone.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Carb bolts Reply with quote

... and if still stock on 1960 and earlier vehicles it's a 14mm wrench that's needed.
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