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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice Rome. I don't plan on using led bulbs. I replaced the turn signal bulbs with amber ones vs the clear. Much better. As far, as the front turn signals go... They are pretty beat up. Cracked, faded and some holes worn through the plastic. They are Hella. Maybe original to the car. The front turn signal lenses are pretty pricey however. I've been putting if off to address other issues. At some point in time, I'll have to bite the bullet on the lenses, gaskets, etc.. I'll look into the black marine vinyl tape. Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

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With all the lifted vehicles and cell phone users these days, I am thinking perhaps the 72 to 74 ghia with bigger lights , bumpers and in bright colors are a safer alternative .
The "fat chick" lowered and dressed with some nice wheels is looking pretty sexy.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

It's been awhile since my last update. While the gas tank was out of the car I decided to clean it up, reseal it and replace worn hoses etc... Not done with it yet Because;

It's been too hot outside to do any work. Over 100 degrees every day. Waiting on cooler weather to work on the Ghia again.

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Made in Brazil.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

Any progress is good progress.
I’d have to look back at my photos or receipts to see if I can come up with a part number but the POR 15 folks have a gas tank kit that includes a cleaner, rust encapsulator and an epoxy coating that will prevent any further rust issues.
I used it on my “new” tank that already had some rust inside and it was still very clean looking some 12 years later
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

More pic's

I used KBS gas tank sealer to clean and seal the tank. There was some rust along the seams inside the tank. The inside of the tank came out like a glass coating afterwards. I also stripped and repainted the tank with epoxy paint. One mistake I made was that I stripped the paint off the tank first. Then did the tank sealing. What happened is that some of the coating got on the tank and I had to grinded it off. The coating is hard as a rock and does not come off easily. I suggest you seal the tank first. Then strip the paint off the tank etc.. That way no double work.
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[img]https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/2211728.jpg[/img The nuts on the wire are used to shake inside the tank to remove as much rust as posssible.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

jeffrey8164 wrote:
Any progress is good progress.
I’d have to look back at my photos or receipts to see if I can come up with a part number but the POR 15 folks have a gas tank kit that includes a cleaner, rust encapsulator and an epoxy coating that will prevent any further rust issues.
I used it on my “new” tank that already had some rust inside and it was still very clean looking some 12 years later
Thanks, Jeffery for the inspirational words. I sealed the tank with KBS coatings.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

Nice job. Hope it cools off so you can get back to work. I can't deal with heat at all. Good thing I live in Vermont.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

Marcdeb wrote:
Nice job. Hope it cools off so you can get back to work. I can't deal with heat at all. Good thing I live in Vermont.
Thanks Marc Smile. It's been a long brutal hot summer. Some week's, it was 117 degrees. That's in the shade. I'm itching to get back to work on the Ghia. Also go driving around.

I know it can get brutal cold in Vermont during the winter. I lived in upstate New York when I was stationed at Griffiss AFB back in the day. 200 inches of snow, -25 degrees below zero, wind chill of -50 degrees below zero. I guess it's a trade off. The hot or the cold weather.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

I thought to myself, it's not too hot out today. 95 degrees. I need to get at least one thing done on the Ghia. I was wrong about it not being too hot. But, I did get one thing done.

Something easy and quick. I replaced the steering coupler disc, otherwise known as the steering rag joint. While the gas tank is still out of the car.

I will try each day to get something done. Since it's not to hot. LOL Anyway; Here's some Pic's.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

Just flagging a potential issue with modern rubber couplings.... Some observers have noted the electrical resistance can be quite low with some of these. Since the convoluted horn wiring for these Ghias depends on the electrical isolation of this part, you should get a multimeter set in the ohms range and measure how high the resistance is. If it is conductive, the horns will sound all the time and you'll go nuts wondering why. Worth checking now

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

Where would you put the probes, on opposing bolts, the same bolt and nut? I have this same coupler with a ground wire from one bolt crossed over to an opposing bolt, so want to make sure I don't have the same problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

rbsurfguy wrote:
Where would you put the probes, on opposing bolts, the same bolt and nut? I have this same coupler with a ground wire from one bolt crossed over to an opposing bolt, so want to make sure I don't have the same problem.
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That’s covered in the first page of the “getting your horns working “ thread. There’s a photo showing how. Look in the stickies for the best how to threads.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

Noted, thank you Sir. I have a new horn relay, but it is always good to check anyway, the way things are made today!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

sputnick60 wrote:
Just flagging a potential issue with modern rubber couplings.... Some observers have noted the electrical resistance can be quite low with some of these. Since the convoluted horn wiring for these Ghias depends on the electrical isolation of this part, you should get a multimeter set in the ohms range and measure how high the resistance is. If it is conductive, the horns will sound all the time and you'll go nuts wondering why. Worth checking now

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Thanks Nicholas. I seem to remember a post in the forums about that problem.

I hate to admit, but the Ghia has no horns etc.. It was like that when I bought the car. Another area to work on.
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No horns, at least there is a bracket and some bolts.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

Worked on the Electric fuel pump today. It's located below the gas tank on the passenger side of the car.

Some issues with the fuel pump were the fittings were too big. I wanted to use German braided 5mm hose and it would not fit the large fittings.

The wiring was all jacked up. Some PO used plastic wire nuts to connect the wiring.

There is no safety relay. So if the engine cuts out, the fuel pump will continue to run.
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Fuel pump. See the plastic wire nut?

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Check fit with 5mm hose. Loctite to seal the fittings from leaks.

I'll post more of the wiring issues in another post.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

I installed an electric fuel pump in my Ghia as well and had the same problem, had to use the line reducers as well to connect from the tank, and to the line running through the tunnel. As for the controller, I purchased this fuel pump controller made specifically for VW's https://www.revolutionelectronics.com/Products/Fuel_Pump.html

Instructions are very clear and they send you everything to connect including wiring that runs all the way to the rear in order to connect to the coil which should allow the pump to shut off when the engine dies. Not sure if it's the perfect solution, but it had others' approval when hooking up an electric fuel pump.

Just my 3 cents.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

i'm another vote for the revolution electronics one, I used VW/Audi/Porsche fuel pump relays for a time but they don't last long. and the wiring is more complex
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

Thanks, Jeff and Ian for the link and info on the fuel pump relay. I've been looking at several of them online. Which of course, I don't know if the are good or bad. I will most likely go with the revolution electronics one.

The wiring on the fuel pump is quite simple. 2 wires, one is a ground the other is a hot lead. The hot lead on mine is connected to a hot wire on the brake light switch on the master cylinder. It only gets power when the key is on. The ground is just simply attached to the body of the car. The wiring on the master cylinder brake light switches is my next item to sort out.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

My fuel pump has the same two wires. If I remember correctly, will have to take a look to confirm, one of the Revolution wires splices into the tachometer. I replaced my non-working clock with an ISP West 52mm tach that fits the clock spot. I don't think it's mandatory to have a tach, but I think it adds to the shutdown mode.

Post some pics, when you have them, how you mount your fuel sender and filter. I have pics somewhere on my build page, Which I copied from Jeffrey8164's set up.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: My Fat Chick Reply with quote

Jeff, I may of forgotten to post some pictures of the fuel tank restoration/repair.

The fuel sending unit is the stock VW one. All I did was replace the gasket. As it was working fine when it was in the car.

Fuel filters, technically I have 3. The stock bronze mesh strainer that goes inside the gas tank. It was missing when I took the tank apart. The fuel pump also has a filter on the inlet. Lastly, the stock Vw filter located in the engine compartment which I plan to move under the body, by the transmission.

I looked at the wiring diagram for the Revolution fuel relay. I thought to myself if I have to run a wire from the negative side of the coil to the front of the car, I should add a tachometer. Which I don't have. I kind of like the big monster tachometers. Also, my clock does not work. I will keep the information you provided in my VW notebook for future reference. Thanks.

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