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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:20 pm    Post subject: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

if anyone out there that has the VW/Snapon 3051 ball joint tool and would be willing to measure it i'd like the following:

length:
OD:
ID one end:
ID other end:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

seeing i own a van these days i wanted that tool, but seems to be on intergalactic backorder

i made my own if you're interested in dimensions. she ain't pretty because i made it from scrap but it works fine
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

aup. please!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

ID 64mm

height 77 mm

OD 70mm

those are approximate, within +/- a mm

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the cut out is about 49mm wide and 45mm tall

note: the ball joint stem will pass thru the hole a bit, but i have other pates with holes in them to make it work.

the ID is like a mm bigger than the OD of the ball joint. seeing i was a bit short on pipe you can see where i ground out the upper part to clear the knuckle. in a perfect world i would have added another 1/2-3/4 of an inch but it works just fine
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
seeing i own a van these days i wanted that tool, but seems to be on intergalactic backorder

i made my own if you're interested in dimensions. she ain't pretty because i made it from scrap but it works fine


https://vw.snapon.com/SpecialToolsDetail.aspx?itemid=28450108

Shows in stock

I got mine off German eBay it’s still on its way.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

interesting, i couldn't order one a month or so ago, and tried again only to have it bounce back.

thanks for the tip, i will try again
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

in April/May i'm going to need this tool. i hope to never need it again, but quality ball joints, even when quality, aren't so quality.

and so it goes. poo-tweet.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

i've ordered two TRW ball joints from those Latvian eBay rascals that have all the good parts. $32 each post paid. we'll see if i was resourceful or not. could NOT find any stateside with the cast bottom aka Lemforder or TRW.

i need a ball joint in hand to do some hardware store cruising... Schedule 40 and 80 2" black iron pipe looks promising. maybe weld a 40 and an 80 together for the different diameters.

they're on the same slow boat that my fuse block connectors traveled over on, but at least THOSE are in San Francisco port of entry now.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

Don't rule out a short piece of exhaust tubing No nee4d for a cut out, it is thin enough . I use an arbor press.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

RolandD wrote:
Don't rule out a short piece of exhaust tubing No nee4d for a cut out, it is thin enough . I use an arbor press.

Roland


really?! it didn't crush? i'll check that out.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

Here is my attempt at taking some pictures with splits on almost every finger tip. Not as easy as I thought it would be.

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Overall length.


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Outer.

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Thicker inner.

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Thinner inner.

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This one might help too.
Do notice I held a few of those measurements at an inch. Hope it helps.
Dabaron, I have the tool and press and I'm not far. Feel free to get in touch when its time. I also posted some pictures on this thread, end of page one. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

this is really helpful, Gregg. thanks! i was thinking 2" black pipe was the same but this is way larger.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

Here are the dimensions using a caliper. I did my best to get it centered.

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Here are the thin side.
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And I think Skills is correct that the cut out is important too.
Here is the cut out.

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I'll double check that I got the pictures under the correct locations.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

The first two pictures are the thick side.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

GreggK wrote:
The first two pictures are the thick side.


is this tool in Colorado or Philly... asking for a friend Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

Philly yo!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

this will be my attempt at tool 3051.. exhaust tubing another member had tried and it worked. i'm hopeful it will clear everything it needs to without the cut away.

will exhaust tubing be strong enough to press it in? we'll see! with a straight on push in the press it might.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

Yup, that looks familiar.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

Roland! was that you that had used exhaust tubing? if so, thanks for the idea!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: VW 3051 ball joint tool dimensions Reply with quote

There's a whole thread about this tool here

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...p;start=20
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