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66 dormi Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:17 pm Post subject: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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Wondering what people’s thoughts are on camperizing
Is it ok nowadays to cut windows in and add a poptop like rivera did back in the day??
Panels take a special kinda person I’m just wondering if I get tired of no windows she’s so beat and dented does it really matter
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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Welll...., a clean uncut panel is a fairly rare item these days, but there's a very small percentage of the market that appreciates things like that, if it's rough already you might be doing it a favour. (I personally like stock commercials BTW).
It's your bus, do it properly and tastefully and it's likely to appeal to a much larger market if you ever decide to sell. But remember less is more, and don't cheap out on the stuff you do go through with. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Tizian Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2015 Posts: 383 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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It’s yours!
Do what ever you want, but do it with love and dignity!
You’ll hear her purr if she likes it...
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NUTSFORBUSES Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2016 Posts: 560 Location: I don't recognize it anymore
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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I appreciate all models, and I do appreciate making them
'yours". Unless you are building a museum piece - I think the cost of making a Bus perfectly stock is egregiously expensive then afraid to drive it. My 21 is a "street machine" but can be turned back. I would either look for a trade, or look forward to a lot of work and money. Panels are pretty cool, as are campers, doubles. Still a lot of campers out there in all sorts of condition. Your blank canvas will take years. I would start w a rough one, but not a panel. "OK" is subjective to only you. I would rather be sourcing a spice rack than trying to figure where it actually screws into the door & in front of which type of panel. If you had a camper in your driveway now, think about it, vs what you are talking about.
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9915 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:51 am Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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Panels make great campers with no windows cut into them. One of the problems with campers is that the curtains only block people from seeing inside the bus, the sunlight still bleeds through and makes it hard to sleep in after sunrise. I think that an uncut panel makes a better camper than a bus with windows. (An RV vent in the roof really makes any camper airflow work better, although it looks funny.) You can source a set of window doors, which deals with most of your blind spot on the right side. looks kind of goofy, but no worse than camper windows with rear quarter panel vents. _________________ .
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halfassleatherworks Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2018 Posts: 641 Location: Reno NV
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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Does it Identify as a camper? If so, do it it's yours and nobody else's
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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Lind wrote: |
Panels make great campers with no windows cut into them. One of the problems with campers is that the curtains only block people from seeing inside the bus, the sunlight still bleeds through and makes it hard to sleep in after sunrise. I think that an uncut panel makes a better camper than a bus with windows. (An RV vent in the roof really makes any camper airflow work better, although it looks funny.) You can source a set of window doors, which deals with most of your blind spot on the right side. looks kind of goofy, but no worse than camper windows with rear quarter panel vents. |
Hmmm...., the modern solution would be flat screens mounted on the walls inside and tiny cameras on a roof rack showing a live feed of outside. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Hmmm...., the modern solution would be flat screens mounted on the walls inside and tiny cameras on a roof rack showing a live feed of outside. |
or your favorite beach, mountain vista, or cityscape.
I would leave it a panel and put a dormo top on it. i support the kombi doors.
360 camera obsoletes windows... or mirrors for that matter. heck, get the radar cruise control and forget about front windows _________________ regards
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sub-hatchtim Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2006 Posts: 2610 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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Personally I wouldn't have an issue with it
I also wouldn't cut any holes though _________________ 58' pg/sg silo fridge westy
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9791 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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As Lind says, swap the doors, put popouts on them for ventilation, call it done.
Save the solid cargo doors if you want to preserve the bus's history. _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
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Manfred58sc Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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By all means go forth, cut the rear wells out, install massive Jackman's on large meats, funky teardrop windows on each side, super comfy bed, shag and velvet, 8 track up front loaded with Sky Saxon and the Seeds, "Gas,Grass, or Ass bumper sticker. Please,please post pictures!
Of course its OK. _________________ Fat chick owner/operator |
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Clara Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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This bus?
Ya, don't hack it. Add a couple kombi doors.
I thought this bus would make a great camper for someone:
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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Clara wrote: |
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Ya, don't hack it. Add a couple kombi doors.
I thought this bus would make a great camper for someone:
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it would have, just couldn't afford it _________________ regards
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Clara Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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mandraks wrote: |
Clara wrote: |
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Ya, don't hack it. Add a couple kombi doors.
I thought this bus would make a great camper for someone:
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it would have, just couldn't afford it |
Well the Gold Mine has gone to a new home, and I don't know where it is now. I am sure it can be a great camper.
A DD makes a nice camper, but I think the pics in the OP's gallery show a W/T which many people also think is a nice feature, and is fairly uncommon in a pre-63. _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9915 Location: idaho
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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mandraks wrote: |
Clara wrote: |
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Ya, don't hack it. Add a couple kombi doors.
I thought this bus would make a great camper for someone:
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it would have, just couldn't afford it |
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mandraks Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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Lind wrote: |
mandraks wrote: |
it would have, just couldn't afford it |
If you can't afford a nice bus, you really can't afford a crappy one..... |
that is what i meant. i could not afford to fix that one up. i just like early panels, double door, walk through, you name it. _________________ regards
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66 dormi Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 607 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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Wow great replies when I started in the hobby panels were parts vans lol always wanted a panel and since I got a new to me vanagon westy a few years back why not , Yeah it was this bus (white one) even after months of bodywork she’s solid just beyond straight ideally the entire roof would need replacement to be perfect in hindsight it would have made the best rat rod panel I just like shinny paint better tet
right now she’s back to sealing wax red and I’ve put the Kombi doors in still some dents but a solid 10 footer lol
I will Post pics later
Clara wrote: |
This bus?
Ya, don't hack it. Add a couple kombi doors.
I thought this bus would make a great camper for someone:
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CanStan Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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Lind wrote: |
Panels make great campers with no windows cut into them. One of the problems with campers is that the curtains only block people from seeing inside the bus, the sunlight still bleeds through and makes it hard to sleep in after sunrise. |
It's not windows that cause me to wake up before sunrise. It's a 5 year old. I have a Panel, but I'll never know the joys of sleeping in after the sun comes out. |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days |
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They do grow up, eventually they will sleep longer than you do. Some day you won't even know their in the house unless they get hungry. _________________ Roads Scholar &
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