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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:17 pm    Post subject: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

Wondering what people’s thoughts are on camperizing
Is it ok nowadays to cut windows in and add a poptop like rivera did back in the day??
Panels take a special kinda person I’m just wondering if I get tired of no windows she’s so beat and dented does it really matter

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

Welll...., a clean uncut panel is a fairly rare item these days, but there's a very small percentage of the market that appreciates things like that, if it's rough already you might be doing it a favour. (I personally like stock commercials BTW).

It's your bus, do it properly and tastefully and it's likely to appeal to a much larger market if you ever decide to sell. But remember less is more, and don't cheap out on the stuff you do go through with.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

It’s yours!

Do what ever you want, but do it with love and dignity!
You’ll hear her purr if she likes it... Wink

Show us some pictures please!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

I appreciate all models, and I do appreciate making them
'yours". Unless you are building a museum piece - I think the cost of making a Bus perfectly stock is egregiously expensive then afraid to drive it. My 21 is a "street machine" but can be turned back. I would either look for a trade, or look forward to a lot of work and money. Panels are pretty cool, as are campers, doubles. Still a lot of campers out there in all sorts of condition. Your blank canvas will take years. I would start w a rough one, but not a panel. "OK" is subjective to only you. I would rather be sourcing a spice rack than trying to figure where it actually screws into the door & in front of which type of panel. If you had a camper in your driveway now, think about it, vs what you are talking about.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

Panels make great campers with no windows cut into them. One of the problems with campers is that the curtains only block people from seeing inside the bus, the sunlight still bleeds through and makes it hard to sleep in after sunrise. I think that an uncut panel makes a better camper than a bus with windows. (An RV vent in the roof really makes any camper airflow work better, although it looks funny.) You can source a set of window doors, which deals with most of your blind spot on the right side. looks kind of goofy, but no worse than camper windows with rear quarter panel vents.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

Does it Identify as a camper? If so, do it it's yours and nobody else's
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
Panels make great campers with no windows cut into them. One of the problems with campers is that the curtains only block people from seeing inside the bus, the sunlight still bleeds through and makes it hard to sleep in after sunrise. I think that an uncut panel makes a better camper than a bus with windows. (An RV vent in the roof really makes any camper airflow work better, although it looks funny.) You can source a set of window doors, which deals with most of your blind spot on the right side. looks kind of goofy, but no worse than camper windows with rear quarter panel vents.

Hmmm...., the modern solution would be flat screens mounted on the walls inside and tiny cameras on a roof rack showing a live feed of outside. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:

Hmmm...., the modern solution would be flat screens mounted on the walls inside and tiny cameras on a roof rack showing a live feed of outside. Wink


or your favorite beach, mountain vista, or cityscape.

I would leave it a panel and put a dormo top on it. i support the kombi doors.

360 camera obsoletes windows... or mirrors for that matter. heck, get the radar cruise control and forget about front windows Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

Personally I wouldn't have an issue with it

I also wouldn't cut any holes though
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

As Lind says, swap the doors, put popouts on them for ventilation, call it done.
Save the solid cargo doors if you want to preserve the bus's history.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

By all means go forth, cut the rear wells out, install massive Jackman's on large meats, funky teardrop windows on each side, super comfy bed, shag and velvet, 8 track up front loaded with Sky Saxon and the Seeds, "Gas,Grass, or Ass bumper sticker. Please,please post pictures!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

This bus?

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Ya, don't hack it. Add a couple kombi doors.

I thought this bus would make a great camper for someone:
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

Clara wrote:
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Ya, don't hack it. Add a couple kombi doors.

I thought this bus would make a great camper for someone:
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it would have, just couldn't afford it Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

mandraks wrote:
Clara wrote:
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Ya, don't hack it. Add a couple kombi doors.

I thought this bus would make a great camper for someone:


it would have, just couldn't afford it Wink


Well the Gold Mine has gone to a new home, and I don't know where it is now. I am sure it can be a great camper.
A DD makes a nice camper, but I think the pics in the OP's gallery show a W/T which many people also think is a nice feature, and is fairly uncommon in a pre-63.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:24 am    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

mandraks wrote:
Clara wrote:
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Ya, don't hack it. Add a couple kombi doors.

I thought this bus would make a great camper for someone:
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it would have, just couldn't afford it Wink
If you can't afford a nice bus, you really can't afford a crappy one.....
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
mandraks wrote:
it would have, just couldn't afford it Wink
If you can't afford a nice bus, you really can't afford a crappy one.....


that is what i meant. i could not afford to fix that one up. i just like early panels, double door, walk through, you name it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

Wow great replies when I started in the hobby panels were parts vans lol always wanted a panel and since I got a new to me vanagon westy a few years back why not , Yeah it was this bus (white one) even after months of bodywork she’s solid just beyond straight ideally the entire roof would need replacement to be perfect in hindsight it would have made the best rat rod panel I just like shinny paint better tet Very Happy
right now she’s back to sealing wax red and I’ve put the Kombi doors in still some dents but a solid 10 footer lol
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This bus?

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Ya, don't hack it. Add a couple kombi doors.

I thought this bus would make a great camper for someone:
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
Panels make great campers with no windows cut into them. One of the problems with campers is that the curtains only block people from seeing inside the bus, the sunlight still bleeds through and makes it hard to sleep in after sunrise.


It's not windows that cause me to wake up before sunrise. It's a 5 year old. I have a Panel, but I'll never know the joys of sleeping in after the sun comes out.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Ethical question is it ok to camperize a panel now a days Reply with quote

They do grow up, eventually they will sleep longer than you do. Some day you won't even know their in the house unless they get hungry.
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