Remote Start?

[ChrisBarr77]

I just bought a 84 Westy automatic with a crimestopper 202 alarm / door lock system. New to reading & comprehending the Bentley.

I’m interested in upgrading to the crimestopper SP-404 which also includes remote start.

I’d like to wire in the remote start.
Trying to make sure I know exactly which wires to hook up... still need to test light the wires to know, but looking at the instructions I need the starter wire, ignition wire & accessory wires along with two 12v hots. 12v hots is easy... but the Starter & ignition aren’t clear.

I think the Black wire is the ACC... that took seems right...?

I see the Red/Black shows it’s going to the starter, but it also looks like that goes to the fuel control unit when afterwards goes to a power supply relay then through to the fuel pump relay via a Black/White wire then on to the ignition coil.

I’m confused on what goes where & really what can I use from the ignition switch wires or what needs to be ran new.

Am I supposed to run a new wire directly to the starter solenoid... or can I?

Where do I tie into for IGN... is this done directly at the coil pack?

Looks like the large 10 gauge RED is the 12v hot.


Any help would be appreciated

[MarkWard]

I’m not familiar with the product and to be honest, don’t see how it can work. But all the wires you need are in the ignition plug. Heavy red is bat power. Heavy red with black tracer engages the starter. Black wire is key on power not accessory. The black and yellow wire is power in run position, but looses power during cranking with the key.

Word of caution. Don’t forget to install the key and turn it. You need to be sure you don’t drive off and have the steering lock. Also, I don’t see how it can work unless the power is continually routed through it, so I’d wire it so it can be easily bypassed if it screws up or one day when the engine won’t start.
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[Love My Westy]

Just a note about remote starters. I have a Dodge truck with the factory remote starter that works by pressing a button (twice) on my key fob. While it is nice when warming up the truck on a snowy day without it being stolen by some walker-by (the doors remain locked), there have been numerous instances of me walking out the door and finding my truck running when I hadn't activated the remote start. I'd have no idea how long the truck had been running. Just like the panic button, it is possible to accidently start the engine by movement in my pocket. It's a strange feeling to walk out and find your vehicle running when you didn't know you had started it, or when you had started it.

[ChrisBarr77]

Thank you for the details on the wiring. I found a link by a different manufacturer showing the correct hookup of the remote start to the vanagon ignition. As you mentioned... heavy Red is 12v hot all time with the Red with black stripe going to STARTER. Then the black is for the IGN & Black with Yellow stripe going to ACC.

In regards to the auto start of your Dodge Truck... that’s REALLY weird. I’d be at the dealership if it happened to me. I’ve owned a 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee since new and never once found my Jeep running on its own... that’s not a worry for me at all.

[djkeev]

My problem with a remote start on a Vanagon is this.......

They aren't a vehicle you leave idling unattended.
That is when the radiator hose blows, fan belt pops off or the radiator fan fails to come on and you overheat!

I worry any time I step away from it leaving it run.

Dave
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[MarkWard]

Black and yellow is for the load reduction during starting. Heavy consumers are temporarily shut for max cranking voltage and reduced load. Headlights, blower, ac, rear defogger etc.
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[Wildthings]

Vanagons have no ACC function, so no wire. As mentioned they do have a Load Reduction Relay and the accompanying "X" function on the ignition switch.

[jimf909]

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A couple of years ago I used my son's car (some sort of Audi) in the UK - I couldn't work out how to turn it off! Still mystified.
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