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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:13 pm Post subject: 1-2 second SCREEEECH on cold startup |
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Sounds sort of like fingernails on a chalkboard. What would cause this?? Only happens on cold startup, and really only after the car has been sitting a couple days. Piston ring scraping against the cylinder wall? My oil level is spot on. I also thought about the fan belt, but I would think it would happen all the time if it was that. Any suggestions would be helpful, thx _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
Solex 30 PICT 3 carburetor
Bosch 113905205AE autostick distributor
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raydog Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1163 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: 1-2 second SCREEEECH on cold startup |
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Check your belt for proper tension _________________ Come on, It's not rocket science. KISS |
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: 1-2 second SCREEEECH on cold startup |
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raydog wrote: |
Check your belt for proper tension |
LOL I just added that to my post above, but I wll check it anyway, thx _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
Solex 30 PICT 3 carburetor
Bosch 113905205AE autostick distributor |
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: 1-2 second SCREEEECH on cold startup |
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Belt tension seems about perfect, just over 1/2" deflection at center point between the two pulleys. It actually sound more metal-on-metal to me but don't really know for sure. _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
Solex 30 PICT 3 carburetor
Bosch 113905205AE autostick distributor |
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Dan the workingstiff Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2006 Posts: 824 Location: Downriver, MI
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: 1-2 second SCREEEECH on cold startup |
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How do you feel about pulling the belt off. You say cold start up, cold outside cold or cold motor cold, _________________ '69 Beetle
'66 FG buggy
My other air-cooled's
'76 IH 1200
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1-2 second SCREEEECH on cold startup |
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Sounds like the starter to me.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
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Pez Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2003 Posts: 583 Location: Texarkana
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: 1-2 second SCREEEECH on cold startup |
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Tim Donahoe wrote: |
Sounds like the starter to me.
Tim |
That's what I was thinking, sounds like starter is on the outs. Good to check belt condition and tension as a precautionary step though. _________________ Always chasing Squirrel's. |
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1-2 second SCREEEECH on cold startup |
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Dan the workingstiff wrote: |
How do you feel about pulling the belt off. You say cold start up, cold outside cold or cold motor cold, |
Motor cold. I have no problem taking the belt off & trying it.
Tim Donahoe wrote: |
Sounds like the starter to me.
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This would not surprise me, it's a Duralast reman starter that I JUST replaced under the lifetime warranty after continually having trouble with the previous one (I posted about that one several weeks ago.) Probably got the same exact (lack of) quality. _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
Solex 30 PICT 3 carburetor
Bosch 113905205AE autostick distributor |
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goober Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2003 Posts: 1183
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: 1-2 second SCREEEECH on cold startup |
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If it was a 4-speed I'd suggest it might be the main-shaft ball bearing being worn and 'dry'. Not sure what you have in your auto-stick.
Try this. When you know for sure it's going to occur the next morning, jack-up the rear of your car the night before and let trans oil migrate to the main-shaft ball bearing (if you have one).
My brother always parks backwards on a hill/driveway. He claims he's saving his trans (4-speed) ball-bearing. A little extreme but again I did grind some grooves in my case to get more oil to that bearing the last time I was there.
A new ball-bearing getting more oil has cured my winter 'screech' so far. |
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