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dart330 Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2004 Posts: 454 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:34 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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I've had the awning in a bag for 8+ years, has worked great especially with the add on front wall for additional shade and wind blocking, but the bag is looking rough.
Been eyeing the new model with led lights and the hard case, so I would like to know as well. Amazon has the bag weight at 40 pounds and the hard case at 43 pounds.
Vancafe says 35 pounds for the hard case and nothing about 4 brackets.
https://www.vancafe.com/ARB814411-p/arb814411.htm _________________ Driving a 90 Carat since 2014
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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Xevin wrote: |
Thinking of buying an ARB 2500 with aluminum case. When looking for brackets
that don’t require drilling I saw this on North Westy website.
“Please note: If you have a hard case ARB awning, you need to buy two sets (four total) of our awning brackets to support the weight, thank you.”
Anyone using 4 brackets? Maybe this is obvious but I can’t wrap my head around where the other two brackets would mount. I emailed North West but they are not open until Monday. Anyone have pictures of this set up?
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They probably don't want to break up sets of two but you can use three on one. _________________ '15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
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dgbeatty Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2006 Posts: 702 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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This is how I adapted Northwesty brackets (3) to an ARB aluminium case.
Drilled four new holes in each bracket to lower the case as much as possible.
Using the top roller of a belt sander I contoured the bottom edge to match the window openings.
Completely satisfied with the results. _________________ Schau in das Buch |
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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dgbeatty Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2006 Posts: 702 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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The admonition to use 3 brackets on larger ARB comes directly from ARB. Vendors that do not pass it along are doing a disservice. My worthless opinion. _________________ Schau in das Buch |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7635
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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dgbeatty wrote: |
This is how I adapted Northwesty brackets (3) to an ARB aluminium case.
Drilled four new holes in each bracket to lower the case as much as possible.
Using the top roller of a belt sander I contoured the bottom edge to match the window openings.
Completely satisfied with the results. |
That helps a lot. Thank you for the photos. Nice mod. I’m curious what North Westy response is to my email. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32630 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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pnwkayaker Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2008 Posts: 920 Location: Sammamish, WA
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:30 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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I've had the soft version of the ARB awning for 8-9 years (I believe it's 8 ft long) and been using 2 brackets from North-Westy without any problems (I've removed and reinstalled the awning and brackets several times to clean/wash/repaint the van with no problems). The brackets are rock solid.
I truly don't see how you can use 4 mounting brackets (too many windows in a Vanagon), the mod to use 3 is a good one. _________________ 87 Syncro Westy EJ25 ("Tardis")
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Vanlife Geek Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2014 Posts: 285 Location: CO
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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I put together a little video about the ARB Screen Room that attaches to the ARB Awning to show how it goes up and how it looks after it's installed on a Westy. This is the regular screen room, not the newer "Awning Room" that has both the screen room and tent. Anyway, I found this footage I took a couple of years ago and thought I'd edit it into a video for those that are interested. The addition of a screen room really increases the protected living space of our small vans and makes for a great place to hang out when it's a little buggy outside.
Link
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Current:
1986 Syncro Westy
Previous:
1983 Westy
1981 Westy
1972 Bug (Last year you could buy a new one for under $2,000)
1965/66 Bug (2 bugs from a junk yard combined to make 1 functional bug)
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7635
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:52 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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To follow up. North Westy emailed me back. It is 3 brackets as pictured in previous posts. Thanks for the pictures.
“Hello,
The third bracket goes behind the slider door on the C Pillar. You end up with four brackets because we don’t standard offer the aluminum awning, so we traditionally sell our brackets in sets of 2.
Thank you” _________________ Keep on Busin'
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TurtsMcSlow Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2015 Posts: 78 Location: Derby City, Cantuckee
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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If you end up getting 2 sets of brackets you can use your leftover one to sell to someone who has a waterPORT to hang off of the drivers side gutters. |
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Corwyn Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2009 Posts: 2238 Location: Olympia, Washington
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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pnwkayaker wrote: |
I've had the soft version of the ARB awning for 8-9 years (I believe it's 8 ft long) and been using 2 brackets from North-Westy without any problems (I've removed and reinstalled the awning and brackets several times to clean/wash/repaint the van with no problems). The brackets are rock solid.
I truly don't see how you can use 4 mounting brackets (too many windows in a Vanagon), the mod to use 3 is a good one. |
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FAS Gen V 2.0
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Muftobration Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2014 Posts: 90 Location: Acton, MA
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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I just got the aluminum case awning from VanCafe with the two bracket add-on. Nice as it is not to have to drill into the van, I have a problem with them: when turning right, the awning leans to the left, lifting the front bracket foot off the van ever so slightly. It vibrates back and forth a little, making an annoying sound that I originally thought was a steering or suspension issue developing. Does anyone else have this problem? Does a third bracket solve it? I can add video if my explanation isn't clear. _________________ 1985 Westfalia full camper - Bostig v2.0 with several updates |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:32 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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^^^ I'd shim that sucker with a rubber pad glued to the offending bracket...
<shrug>
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
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1988M5 Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2016 Posts: 674 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:17 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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For those using more than 2 mounts, the roof isn't completely straight. You want to shim the front and rear some. See pics.
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tobloyd Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2018 Posts: 184 Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 10:27 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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I have the shorter awning. Is it safe to have the rear mount positioned above the window like this and not screwed into the body?
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6247 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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I wouldn't let the bracket rest on the window. It will apply pressure when the van bonces and the awning moves a little. You can move it over to the pillar and just let the awning cantilever back. It should be fine. _________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto |
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tobloyd Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2018 Posts: 184 Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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PDXWesty wrote: |
I wouldn't let the bracket rest on the window. It will apply pressure when the van bonces and the awning moves a little. You can move it over to the pillar and just let the awning cantilever back. It should be fine. |
Thanks, I’ll try that—hopefully it won’t interfere with the sliding door 🤞 |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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agree 100%
I would consider moving the whole awning forward to over the front door some too. it'll better shade the slider opening and better protect from rain..
Physics > aesthetics
PDXWesty wrote: |
I wouldn't let the bracket rest on the window. It will apply pressure when the van bonces and the awning moves a little. You can move it over to the pillar and just let the awning cantilever back. It should be fine. |
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tobloyd Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2018 Posts: 184 Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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danfromsyr wrote: |
agree 100%
I would consider moving the whole awning forward to over the front door some too. it'll better shade the slider opening and better protect from rain..
Physics > aesthetics
PDXWesty wrote: |
I wouldn't let the bracket rest on the window. It will apply pressure when the van bonces and the awning moves a little. You can move it over to the pillar and just let the awning cantilever back. It should be fine. |
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Great point, I’ll do that... but 25/64-ths drill bit 😖 |
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