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vmg Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:50 am Post subject: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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Hi guys! I have another question: Key types!
I understand the 1964 cars used two keys (until 1967 they went to one key only), but there are many different varieties of key blank shapes.
Can anybody tell me the letter codes for the keys used?
Any suggestions as to where to source original key blanks?
Thanks,
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Randall Samba Member
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ataraxia Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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If you have an original key - the code is on the key - if you don't have a key - you can remove the steering wheel and the key code should be etched on the face of the turn signal arm (assuming the ignition hasn't been replaced). The key code is typically NOT etched on the ignition housing itself.
There are a handful of key codes for the early-ish ignitions (H, FM, DV, etc.) and as you may imagine, they key profiles are specific to the code. Some blanks are easier to find than others. |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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ataraxia wrote: |
If you have an original key - the code is on the key - if you don't have a key - you can remove the steering wheel and the key code should be etched on the face of the turn signal arm (assuming the ignition hasn't been replaced). The key code is typically NOT etched on the ignition housing itself.
There are a handful of key codes for the early-ish ignitions (H, FM, DV, etc.) and as you may imagine, they key profiles are specific to the code. Some blanks are easier to find than others. |
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vmg Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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Thank you guys!
But I am trying to find out the key codes, the letters, to get the correct blanks which I would have a local locksmith cut for me.
Any light on the subject?
Thanks!
Victor |
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Erik G Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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there are so many variables, thats why people pointed you to gabe
If you have Halt/Garage/Fahrt/Start on your 61-66 ignition, it's an H code
If it doesnt, and it's smooth, I think thats a replacement 65-66 style and I believe that is a DV code
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ataraxia Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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Erik G wrote: |
there are so many variables, thats why people pointed you to gabe
If you have Halt/Garage/Fahrt/Start on your 61-66 ignition, it's an H code
If it doesnt, and it's smooth, I think thats a replacement 65-66 style and I believe that is a DV code
Early doors should be an A code |
Just to throw a rock into the blender - I have an early ignition w/script on bezel with an FM key code. |
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vmg Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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Thank you Eric! I checked and I have a smooth switch... so I guess I have a replacement switch... hmmmm...
Thanks again for your help,
Victor |
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rustyfastback Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2002 Posts: 839 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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I have some smooth switches with both H code & FM code. Best way is to remove the column & see if the factory tape (can be seen near the terminal block at the rear of the column) has been removed. If either the turn signal arm or the ignition switch has been removed the tape will be removed. I have cut H code keys when the factory tape has not been tampered with & 9 out of 10 have worked. In the photo the factory black cloth style tape would be where the zip tie is on these repaired columns.
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vmg Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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Thanks! I will try to do that.
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_Pascal_ Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:59 am Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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Erik G wrote: |
there are so many variables, thats why people pointed you to gabe
If you have Halt/Garage/Fahrt/Start on your 61-66 ignition, it's an H code
If it doesnt, and it's smooth, I think thats a replacement 65-66 style and I believe that is a DV code
Early doors should be an A code |
Sorry for reviving this old thread but I have a similar situation. I do not have any door keys for my 1965 1500S. On the door locks there is indeed an A-code. Yet that does not help my locksmith as he does not know what type of blank key he needs to order. Can anyone point me in the right direction (besides http://www.gabvwkey.com as I am in europe) |
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rustyfastback Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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You can use the generic key blanks for “A” code
Curtis V-15
Dominion 62DW
Ilco HF17
Taylor V70D
These blanks are out there just not in production any more. |
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mdege Samba Member
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_Pascal_ Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:16 am Post subject: Re: Original type key blanks for my 1964 1500S |
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Thanks for your help!
Keyprof said they can make the key, so I placed an order. I handed him the information from rustyfastback about the specific key blanks so hopefully he will be able to deliver.
https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/key_service did not have these specific blanks but they directed me to https://www.auto-schnatz.de/ I have not contacted them yet as I will first wait on Keyprof.
EDIT: Keys from Keyprof just arrived and they work. I can fully recommend his services. Thanks everyone involved! |
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