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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

My 71 came from the factory with the band type gen cover. It still has this original cover.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

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My 71 came from the factory with the band type gen cover. It still has this original cover.

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My '72 Super years ago had the same metal band type dust cover, supposedly original according to the original owner.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

Might find them in a Bosch parts catalog if not in a VW manual.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

My 67 vert has only one cover on the top. My 68 came from factory without covers.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

Even the strap only covered the upper port. The lower was meant to be left open for cooling.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

If someone has a photo of the original factory strap for a late 60s Beetle, I'm interested in seeing it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

Mine’s a 71. But I’d imagine the same as late 60s. Pic of it mounted is ok?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

Sure, just interested in knowing what the later full strap looks like versus the louvered Split Bug ones shown earlier in the thread
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

It's pretty simple - just a flat strap with 2 rectangular openings (with rounded corners). One opening goes over the 2 connector studs and the other opening is is over the lower brush opening. The strap is bent 90deg at the ends with a screw/nut to tighten. When properly installed the tightening screw will be at 9 O'clock.

Will post pics later today.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

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My ‘68 Euro spec came fitted with what is often erroneously called the “67 year only” generator with push on generator terminals. It has been in the family since new and does not have the covers fitted.


Much has been expended on that subject: For 1967 The Beetle Generator part number is/was 211 903 031 (from VW Parts Book) applicable from Engine Number H 0 204 001 (August 1966) to/through July 1967 Model Year 1967 for Special Options Code 610 (12 Volts) USA/Canada and wherever else 12 Volts may have been used. Beginning in August 1967 for Model Year 1968 the Generator Part Number was 211 903 031 A-a change in the Generator was made!

Prior to 1967 Workshop Bulletin E - 72 August 1965 states that All generators and Regulators are now of the Push-on Type from 2 August 1965 (October 1965 for Type 2). Workshop Bulletin E of 27 March 1968 states that the D+ and DF terminals of Generator and Regulator have been changed from Push-on to Screw type. Additionally that bulletin states that if Generators or Regulators of the Push-on Type are used to Replace the screw on type-additional connecting parts are necessary and lists the needed parts! So, one way the Push-on type could be used outside its birth Year or Engine number sequence!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

Any chance the generator's starting with 211 are actually Garbe Lahmeyer parts and not Bosch? If they only have a VW part # they are indeed GL.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

From "Bosch spare parts for Volkswagen" (9.61) and the same but for 1500 (2.62)

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25Hp (cover)
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25-36hp (No cover)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

tasb wrote:
Any chance the generator's starting with 211 are actually Garbe Lahmeyer parts and not Bosch? If they only have a VW part # they are indeed GL.


211 903 031 (Bosch 0 101 303 067). 211 903 031 A (Bosch 0 101 302 075).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

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viiking wrote:
My ‘68 Euro spec came fitted with what is often erroneously called the “67 year only” generator with push on generator terminals. It has been in the family since new and does not have the covers fitted.


Much has been expended on that subject: For 1967 The Beetle Generator part number is/was 211 903 031 (from VW Parts Book) applicable from Engine Number H 0 204 001 (August 1966) to/through July 1967 Model Year 1967 for Special Options Code 610 (12 Volts) USA/Canada and wherever else 12 Volts may have been used. Beginning in August 1967 for Model Year 1968 the Generator Part Number was 211 903 031 A-a change in the Generator was made!

Prior to 1967 Workshop Bulletin E - 72 August 1965 states that All generators and Regulators are now of the Push-on Type from 2 August 1965 (October 1965 for Type 2). Workshop Bulletin E of 27 March 1968 states that the D+ and DF terminals of Generator and Regulator have been changed from Push-on to Screw type. Additionally that bulletin states that if Generators or Regulators of the Push-on Type are used to Replace the screw on type-additional connecting parts are necessary and lists the needed parts! So, one way the Push-on type could be used outside its birth Year or Engine number sequence!


Well here’s my Jan ‘68, H0928xxx 211903031 with push on terminals. Been in the family since new.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

viiking: Is your 68 an Automatic?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Why have a generator cover? Reply with quote

No it’s a manual. But is a RHD. Imported to Australia and owned since new by the family.
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