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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:58 pm Post subject: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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any good suggestions for what to do if you cut into the oil galley from the cooler thats between 3 & 4?
i did some searching but its a little difficult to narrow down results with such a specific subject...
the only thing i did find was someone suggested driving a tube down into the galley. didnt seem like a bad idea except for getting the size just right, using a thin enough tube to not restrict oil flow while still being able to drive it in without collapsing it..
and yeh yeh, ill admit i nicked the galley while cutting #3 ... its about big enough to get you thumbnail in and 1/4 long. _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
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Brian_e Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 3292 Location: Rapid City, SD
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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Lemme guess.........Drill press case cutter contraption? _________________ www.type-emotorsports.com |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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Brian_e wrote: |
Lemme guess.........Drill press case cutter contraption? |
i did that once enlarging oil galleys. with only one c clamp. boy did that sucker squeek!! _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5969 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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Is it the cooler feed, or the return to the bearings?
Personally, I would plug it as needed, and then resupply a cooler with the full flow system. You could even tap and supply the cooler in the stock location like the type 4 upright conversion does it _________________ modok wrote:
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26788 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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Sleeve it.
Same thing the factory did. |
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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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Brian_e wrote: |
Lemme guess.........Drill press case cutter contraption? |
did you call ms. Cleo? heh heh
its actually not the tool's fault, ive had good success with it on multiple cases. and its a far cry better than the last one i paid to have cut on a milling machine and the cylinders clunked around in the case like someone ringing a dinner bell... _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
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Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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alright, so sleeved it is. i measured that gallery and got 15/32, closest tubing i could find was 1/2" od. so i grabbed a 3' piece of aluminum and stainless steel. after researching expansion rates aluminum was a lot closer to magnesium ( figured it would be ) but i did learn that s.s. has a higher expansion rate than mild steel, by a fair amount.
so after 2 attempts on one junk case and a final trial on a second i had a system.
since i dont have a milling machine or lathe i had to drill out the galley on the ol drill press to 4" deep. then using fancy shmancy tubing cutter i cut the aluminum tubing to 3 3/4". then chucked up the piece of tubing in my dewalt drill to chamfer and bevel the edges, and also sand off a few thousandths with a little 180 grit DA paper.
then i put the little piece o pipe in the freezer to chill whilst i heated up the case with the ol butane torch. im pretty sure one guy in the shop gets a little excited when i put direct flame to magnesium..
then i used a bolt that i cut down and also chucked into my dewalt and spun the head of the bolt against the grinder to get it nice and round and fit into the oil cooler recess.
with frozen tubing on my modified bolt driver and a dozen or so taps from the hammer it found its way into a new home.
i hope you people were entertained, it doesnt look like much else is going on round here so thought id give yall something to read _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
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Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
“ The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" “ - bdkw1 |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26788 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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So you stuck it in dry?
no lube or sealant?
Yes thanks for the entertainment |
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Brian_e Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 3292 Location: Rapid City, SD
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:04 am Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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Drill press machined case, drill bit finished hole, 180 grit finish on the tube, and hammered into the hole dry.....
Hurry up and put the rest of it together. I wanna see how it ends up.
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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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if youve never just hammered it in dry you aint a real man _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
"You are the Engineer and the Mechanic.
Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
“ The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" “ - bdkw1 |
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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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just incase anyone is google-ing what to do because they had the same issue, results are good so far. engine has an hour run time on it including break in and is maintaining good oil pressure. so kiddos, just because you don't have a $5000 milling machine doesn't mean you gotta give up.
also for the record, i did use lube. i also ate lunch and took a shit that same day, none of which i saw needing to be essential information so i left those out of my original post of how i sleeved the case, kinda just a given i figured. _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
"You are the Engineer and the Mechanic.
Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
“ The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" “ - bdkw1 |
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Shane Tuttle Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2011 Posts: 173 Location: Arlee, Montana
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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Yes, yes. But did you wash your hands, afterwards?
That's an important detail. That, and what lube you used. We need to know that so we can spark up a debate to rival break-in oil threads.... |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26788 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: nicked oil galley between 3 & 4 suggestions |
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use gloves? |
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