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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3817 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Marcdeb wrote: |
c21darrel wrote: |
Did you use the body to bumper cover seals? Didnt see them on 1st pic.
Looking good!! |
Ha! That's the only part that beat me. If there's a trick to this I failed to figure it out. . I think I'm going to look for some rubber U channel. |
I glued mine on before I installed my bumpers. Not as easy as it sounds. Holding the seals in place while drying took some creative thinking.
Ended up using bricks, cat litter in plastic bags and some bar clamps.
You know, just stuff I had laying around. _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
“Let he that is without oil throw the first rod”
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Ian Godfrey Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2006 Posts: 1137 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:23 am Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Don't forget the 'rubber' washer between the bracket and the body. |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3031 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Ian Godfrey wrote: |
Don't forget the 'rubber' washer between the bracket and the body. |
This is the first I've heard about a rubber washer?? Did the factory use rubber washers?
I didn't want to bolt directly to the rear apron so I made some rubber protectors, basically washers, out of inner tube rubber. _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Ian Godfrey Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2006 Posts: 1137 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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my '69 had them and they 'looked' old but I can't confirm if they came from the factory that way. They looked like black tap washers, say 2mm thick. |
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sputnick60 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 22, 2007 Posts: 3915 Location: In Molinya Orbit
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3031 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:05 am Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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sputnick60 wrote: |
Ian Godfrey wrote: |
my '69 had them and they 'looked' old but I can't confirm if they came from the factory that way. They looked like black tap washers, say 2mm thick. |
Part 109 & 110 in the diagram...
Looks like one on either side of the bracket
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Good to know. Thank you. This is very helpful. _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3031 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Still waiting on bumper bracket covers so moved on to something else. The horns are not likely the originals as they have wrong colors of overspray on them. The stampings on each of them does not match the other so I think they were parts off the shelf that the PO threw on the car in a hurry. At least the diaper boot is new. I got something for all that money!!
I stripped and painted the front covers and the diaphragm inside each horn. The back sides that are visible from the trunk received a deep cleaning and I left them original. The diaper boot got a good bath.
Someone else posted about using a string or wire to aid in putting the lip over the hole and that worked really well. Great to find helpful tips on here.
I then tried to get the rubber drain tubes in the front trunk channel and after several tries, I decided to get some upholstery thread and basically use the same trick as the horn boot or windshield install. So much easier.
_________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc
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moogie32 Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 663 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Those horns looks great Marc! How do they sound? _________________ RIP HBB (1984-2009)
Du liefst so gut
Du warst so schön
Doch leider musst du von uns gehn |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3031 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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moogie32 wrote: |
Those horns looks great Marc! How do they sound? |
Well, they sounded great when the car first arrived. As far as I know they are working great. I still have a lot of loose wires so I have not tested anything yet. _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Peter D. Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2004 Posts: 718 Location: Stamford, CT
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Marcdeb wrote: |
Noticed this VW Ghia Front Badge a few weeks ago on Samba for $10.
Figured what the heck, it's only $10, so I took a chance that under all that paint, maybe it was still in decent shape.
I used some chemical stripper and I probably put 2 hours worth of my time into it but this is the end result.
I have several but it turns out this is now the best one so it's going on the car.
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Hey, that's a nice looking nose badge you have there, I want it back along! LOL
It came off the '67 body out of Georgia that I'm using for my '64 project.
I stumbled on your resto thread and you're doing an outstanding job. Are you happy with the narrow weave carpets from Newton? I'm not sure I want to spring for the Square Weave and what you have actually looks very nice.
Anyway, I'm loving your work and experiencing Ghia-envy here as mine is stuck in body shop purgatory until I can reassemble. _________________ 2019 Golf Alltrack, '65 Ghia Coupe Restoration in Progress |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3031 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Hi Peter,
Sorry about the hood badge, but it's already on the car permanently. I was quite pleased that it turned out to be so nice under all that paint. I'm not sure what came over me to buy it in the first place but I'm glad I did.
I haven't installed the Newton carpet yet, but out of the box, I'm totally satisfied with it. I think you will be happy satisfied if you decide to go with Newton. if you haven't communicated with them yet, you'll find them very friendly and professional. The shipping is costly but I think it's worth it. By the way, it took about 2 months to get the carpet set as they make them to order.
Thank you for the compliment, the car has a long way to go but it's getting there.
Good luck with your Ghia. What sort of restoration are you planning? _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Peter D. Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2004 Posts: 718 Location: Stamford, CT
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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I'm glad you bought the emblem because I almost tossed it in the trash! I don't want to hijack your thread with my restoration but this is my project going on 3 years now: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=697059
I haven't posted lately because the car has been in the since October body shop. I'm going to have it painted Pearl White with a black roof and install a custom GTI style plaid interior.
I'm just drooling over your Ghia because you have the fun of assembling a freshly painted car and I'm just gazing at an empty parking spot! _________________ 2019 Golf Alltrack, '65 Ghia Coupe Restoration in Progress |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3031 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Still waiting for small parts to be painted so moving on to headlights, and the rubber seals that go behind the chrome headlight rings. I read a lot of posts about how tricky these rubber seals can be and some people put them in with gasket adhesive, some tape, and some nothing at all. I wanted to get them in without any adhesive. I have the first one finally on and like most everything else so far, it was not an easy or fast job. I had two different sets of seals to work with and they were not at all similar.
I wrote a separate thread with the step by step process I used to get the seal on with out any tape or gasket adhesive. For those interested, here's the link:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9634201#9634201
Here's the final Result. I still have to restore the other headlight bucket but when it's done, I think everything will be much faster on the other side.
_________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Trylon Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2019 Posts: 4853 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 4:26 am Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Seems that we have to content ourselves with baby steps Marc. _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
More tomfoolery on
The Karmann Ghia Fever YouTube Channel! |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3031 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 5:46 am Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Trylon wrote: |
Seems that we have to content ourselves with baby steps Marc. |
I have no choice since business has been up considerably since last summer. Work is taking up most of my time.
I try to do something every day even if it's just digging up information on the next step.
I tore the car down in about 8 hours, yet I put about 4 hours into mounting 1 headlight, although most of the time went into the
headlight seal. But I'm enjoying every minute of it. Like you, I enjoy getting even the smallest details correct. I'm
starting to really get the itch to drive this thing!! _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Trylon Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2019 Posts: 4853 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 6:13 am Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Marcdeb wrote: |
I'm
starting to really get the itch to drive this thing!! |
I bet! _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
More tomfoolery on
The Karmann Ghia Fever YouTube Channel! |
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 10998
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:16 am Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Car is looking great Marc.
What are you doing about the dash pad? I ordered a 68-69 “show” style which they say has to be modified to fit a 70. Supposed to arrive next week. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3031 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:46 am Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Braukuche wrote: |
Car is looking great Marc.
What are you doing about the dash pad? I ordered a 68-69 “show” style which they say has to be modified to fit a 70. Supposed to arrive next week. |
Thank you Braukuche.
I know: I'm being anal about keeping everything original, yet the dash is so NOT original to 71. I'm ok with that because I love the
look of the early dash. I plan to leave it without a pad, but eventually install the correct early grab handle which I already have.
So it will be a 1971 car with the appearance of a 55-58 dash. It will be an all original 71 Cabriolet with an original early dash. Unique! _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 10998
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 8:17 am Post subject: Re: O Ghia's Restoration Journey |
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Marcdeb wrote: |
Braukuche wrote: |
Car is looking great Marc.
What are you doing about the dash pad? I ordered a 68-69 “show” style which they say has to be modified to fit a 70. Supposed to arrive next week. |
Thank you Braukuche.
I know: I'm being anal about keeping everything original, yet the dash is so NOT original to 71. I'm ok with that because I love the
look of the early dash. I plan to leave it without a pad, but eventually install the correct early grab handle which I already have.
So it will be a 1971 car with the appearance of a 55-58 dash. It will be an all original 71 Cabriolet with an original early dash. Unique! |
I forgot about the dash change. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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