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Merian Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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Torx? _________________ .... |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32624 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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markswagen Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2018 Posts: 1038 Location: san diego
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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i take the pulley off, is IF you have the right tool, very difficult if not.
on the road traveling, i had a cut down allen key, but my preferred option, is to take the pulley off.
if you have to room, and still can't get the bolts undone, these are the tits, the important one in this set, is the 13mm, for those bolts, and CV joint bolts.
https://www.amazon.com/Irwin-Tools-BOLT-GRIP-Extra...amp;sr=8-3 _________________ markswagen {mobile mechanic} san diego area all early VW's cared for.
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 3042 Location: MD
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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I have a set of the Irwin Bolt-Grips and I agree, they are the tits. _________________ '87 Syncro
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markswagen Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2018 Posts: 1038 Location: san diego
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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it's annoying that the set is half metric, and half inches, so you have to buy both sets i suppose, i have both, they'd not been beaten, yet.
4Gears4Tires wrote: |
I have a set of the Irwin Bolt-Grips and I agree, they are the tits. |
_________________ markswagen {mobile mechanic} san diego area all early VW's cared for.
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 3042 Location: MD
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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I have the 19mm-25mm set and they are also unbeaten.
I have a similarly designed Harbor Freight 8mm, 10mm, 11mm, 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, 16mm, 17mm and 19mm set. It also works very well but I really need to make sure the socket is properly smashed onto the bolt. The only times I have not been successful is when there hasn't been space to really hammer on it. The edges are not as sharp as the Irwin kit. _________________ '87 Syncro
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7756 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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4Gears4Tires wrote: |
I have a set of the Irwin Bolt-Grips and I agree... |
x3...
My first attempt here was replacing the 4 short hoses to the oil cooler, involving one of the small pipes braced to the upper water pipe bolt...
Long story short, I tried everything including drilling across the width of the bolt head hoping to just destroy that sucker, but no joy...
Ultimately I just sawed through the brace, then wired the pipe back in place once the new hoses were installed...
Drove it like that for 7 years before I finally got my revenge during a WP replacement last summer & it was the Irwin rigs that saved the day.
I now own the "full" set of ten...
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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Important that people realize the 12 points are XZN and are NOT Torx.
Often one can get out rounded out 6mm socket head bolts (8mm) by driving in the 12 point with a hammer. Then just replace with the far superior XZN bolt. _________________ Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
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80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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zoti Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2007 Posts: 2061 Location: Plano, TX USA
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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Finally finished it all.
Installed a new pump.
Installed a new bypass hose after I had to cut the old one.
Some new coolant hoses.
Installed GoWesty coolant pipe repair kit.
Installed new engine mounts. Now it’s not shaking anymore.
Flushed and filled with correct fluid and Subaru coolant system conditioner.
Replaced a lot of rusty bolts on the engine mounts and mustache bar.
I even sat and scraped all the chrome off the front grill. The previous owner painter it black but it was all scraping.
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4789 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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just for the record, when i did my rebuild i replaced the Allens with hex head bolts. seemed like there were more options for wrenches to reach them. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 3042 Location: MD
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 6:46 am Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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Thank you for posting a good high quality video of it running. I saved it so I can use it as a baseline of what a sorted wbx should sound like. _________________ '87 Syncro
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22665 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:45 am Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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DanHoug wrote: |
just for the record, when i did my rebuild i replaced the Allens with hex head bolts. seemed like there were more options for wrenches to reach them. |
a soft SS M6/8 from a hardware store would let you Drenel off the head in 28 seconds if it got stuck, too. _________________ .ssS! |
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Merian Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:42 am Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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Alan Brase wrote: |
Important that people realize the 12 points are XZN and are NOT Torx.
Often one can get out rounded out 6mm socket head bolts (8mm) by driving in the 12 point with a hammer. Then just replace with the far superior XZN bolt. |
Good point. Vanagons may be too old to use Torx much. _________________ .... |
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bobbyblack Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4351 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: What’s the trick to remove these 6mm Allen bolts? |
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4Gears4Tires wrote: |
Thank you for posting a good high quality video of it running. I saved it so I can use it as a baseline of what a sorted wbx should sound like. |
Oh crap! Mine doesn't sound like that AT ALL!!! Maybe I need to fill my exhaust fluid reservoir back up.. I finally found where to add my blinker fluid! Still looking for the right two stroke oil for my windshield wipers. _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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