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jimbob1 Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2010 Posts: 24 Location: oregon
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 12:36 pm Post subject: Engine ID help |
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What does this Pic mean about the ID?
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID help |
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Nothing.
The case was used for a rebuild and the original stamping was ground off.
But by the ribs on the side of the case, I'd bet its a later case, dual relief. |
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jimbob1 Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2010 Posts: 24 Location: oregon
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID help |
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Pruneman99 wrote: |
Nothing.
The case was used for a rebuild and the original stamping was ground off.
But by the ribs on the side of the case, I'd bet its a later case, dual relief. |
I’m a rookie at this, why would they shave the number just because of a rebuild? Also, what is a later case and dual relief? |
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jimbob1 Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2010 Posts: 24 Location: oregon
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID help |
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Just wondering if the engine is period correct to a 1964 bug.. |
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sgmalt46 Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2005 Posts: 1293 Location: south san francisco
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ID help |
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your 1964 would of come with a 40hp.1200cc. like stated your motor looks to be 1970-later. by the ribs. a pic of the whole motor will help. the lone A is not telling anything. AH/ AE are later 1600's some re-builders grind the #'s off . why? not sure. _________________ 55 deluxe 23 window bus
64 crew cab
55 rag top beetle
66 beetle
71 square back (sold) ! good luck with it Henry!
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 6985 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Engine ID help |
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The serial doesn't look to have been ground off to me. I'd say it's likely an original exchange replacement short block that the builder didn't stamp the serial number on -- at least not in the normal spot for a type 1. The symbol stamped to the left of the A isn't perchance a VW inside of two circling arrows is it?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...p;start=17 _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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jimbob1 Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2010 Posts: 24 Location: oregon
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 9:19 am Post subject: Re: Engine ID help |
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mukluk wrote: |
The serial doesn't look to have been ground off to me. I'd say it's likely an original exchange replacement short block that the builder didn't stamp the serial number on -- at least not in the normal spot for a type 1. The symbol stamped to the left of the A isn't perchance a VW inside of two circling arrows is it?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...p;start=17 |
Thanks for the info. It sounds like it’s not period correct for a 1964? |
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mukluk Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Engine ID help |
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jimbob1 wrote: |
Thanks for the info. It sounds like it’s not period correct for a 1964? |
If you're looking for an "original" restoration, no. If you're OK with representing a car that got some honest use and subsequently ended up with an exchange engine during the late 60s or 70s, it'll do just fine. You might want to look it over to see if the serial got stamped somewhere else and maybe transfer that over to the correct location if it bothers you as is.
As it sits the engine currently has several details that blatantly flag it as being not correct for a 1964 such as the alternator, 1300 style oil bath, 009 distributor, square top fuel pump, carburetor, etc.
You can look underneath to see if the case is a single or dual relief to help further narrow down when it was made. _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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sgmalt46 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 9:57 am Post subject: Re: Engine ID help |
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now that you added pics of the motor . looks like a 1600 single port . not 100% as you can't see the ends of the intake manifold where they meet the head.
looked at the sf Craigslist ad . looks like a nice car. guessing your looking
to purchase? I would leave it alone . more practical with 12 volts and larger motor. it does not hurt value if that's the issue . helps if anything. it will
be a bunch of money and hassle to go backwards. imo. much more enjoyable
to drive as is.
Steve _________________ 55 deluxe 23 window bus
64 crew cab
55 rag top beetle
66 beetle
71 square back (sold) ! good luck with it Henry!
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jimbob1 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Engine ID help |
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sgmalt46 wrote: |
now that you added pics of the motor . looks like a 1600 single port . not 100% as you can't see the ends of the intake manifold where they meet the head.
looked at the sf Craigslist ad . looks like a nice car. guessing your looking
to purchase? I would leave it alone . more practical with 12 volts and larger motor. it does not hurt value if that's the issue . helps if anything. it will
be a bunch of money and hassle to go backwards. imo. much more enjoyable
to drive as is.
Steve |
Thanks for the help. I was looking at purchasing the car, but I’m an original/stock guy. 12v and not period correct engine are big, big minuses for me.. |
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sgmalt46 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Engine ID help |
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that's cool . I hear ya. good luck with your search. they are out there .
Steve _________________ 55 deluxe 23 window bus
64 crew cab
55 rag top beetle
66 beetle
71 square back (sold) ! good luck with it Henry!
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