CSP stainless steel stock style muffler pics and impression

[toxicavenger70]

I have been on the limb regarding this muffler for a while. I want a stock style muffler with a stock sound (I know I am asking to much) , but with a little more flow. I was interested in the Vintage Speed muffler, but I haven't seen much info regarding this muffler, so I thought I would take the plunge and post my opinion.

I got this recently at CIP1 for $373 with free shipping. Pretty good price I believe.

The welds are decent. Not great but they are okay. When unboxing I actually got several cuts in my finger tips from the some of the metal edges left over on the rolled ends of the muffler. Kind of annoying to say the least.

Before I install it I will get a before video of the exhaust note and after the install.

Here are some pics.

[H2OSB]

Along these same lines, anyone ever buy the CSP T4 version of this exhaust?
https://www.csp-shop.com/en/exhaust-heating/exhaust-2-tip-251-004-002-12593a.html

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[Alstrup]

CSP or VS. The main difference is the manufacturer and the way they weld, or at least almost. Both are nice for stock or mild cammed engines if you want a stockish look The advertised approx 90 hp upper limit is serius. Pushing them further can be done, but the back pressure increases rapidly. We don´t want that. I have used them up to 240 degrees @ 0,050" cam duration with decent results. They are NOT performance exhausts as such, but they do not get advertised as such either.

The type 4 version can -almost- be rated the same way, however, with the type 4 primaries you can get a little more even pulsing from the cylinders. Decent overall performance with peak power up to around 5500 rpm. If the engine peaks higher it will cost a little, but the midrange driveability is generally good.
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[toxicavenger70]

[liquidrush]

I'm very interested to knyhow quiet that thing is. Please keep us updated.

[nextgen]

I can tell you right off, think about a stock VW Bug with the two standard Pea Shooters that plug into the stock exhaust.

That is the stock exhaust sound from the factory. The pea shooters have baffles in each one.

Remove the pea shooters and the sound gets quite loud even with a stock muffler.

Are the stainless steel muffler stock replacements or are they performance mufflers. If they are stock replacement the will be as loud as a stock muffler without pea shooters.

If a performance muffler--- much louder.

That said, I guess pea shooter will fit on the SS mufflers, to help quite it down.
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[toxicavenger70]

[nextgen]

My exhaust is stainless steel, the later photo show it as black. It discolored so I painted it with black heat paint.

As for the sound at idle my muffler is louder then stock but not that much louder, but when I step on it, the sound is fantastic. A good LOUD, ha.

BTY Money well spent. As you can see in the photo that is the same car the muffler is 30 years old. How many muffler do you think you would have installed if it was plain steel..

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[Bug53]

After seeing pics of that CSP unit theres no way I'm buying that.

I want an exhaust that will come out the back of the car through the pea shooter cut-outs, connect to heater boxes, and offer some flow for a 1900

The VS I have read a few places kick off way too much heat.

[txoval]

I’ve actually used a VS exhaust and never experienced excess heat…sounds like people were running an untuned engine

You also have to pay attention because VS has dozens of options depending on your engine size/hp…pick the right one

[Mug Bug]

To the original poster of this thread........ Now that you've had the CSP for a while, are you still happy with it? Getting ready to order one and thought I would see what you thought first! Thank you.

[Glenn]

[67rustavenger]

I have that system for my 67. I have learned to live without, "Both" kidney's!

But the mugbug was asking about the OP's system. Not the CSP EVO Competition system.
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